Vidjagame Apocalypse 62 – Games on Gamers


What do games really think of their audiences? If their portrayals of gamers are any indication, the sentiment is somewhere between contempt, pity, and outright affection. This week’s show takes a look at five standout examples before moving on to a scattershot discussion of new releases, not enough talk about the E.T. landfill excavation, and your favorite gaming trios.

Question of the Week

What’s your favorite video game within a video game?



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25 thoughts on “Vidjagame Apocalypse 62 – Games on Gamers

  1. QoTw: Animal Crossing on Gamecube had several nes games within the game you could acquire as nes consoles that were furniture, which is the only reason/way Ive ever played Donkey Kong, Balloon Fight or Excitebike, I think this was before nintendo started reselling old games individually for a price and I dont expect this to ever happen again.

    Also pokemon always includes some kind of fun mingame in their games, my favorite probably was the roulette from Ruby/Sapphire, but theres also the slot machine.

  2. Those jerk off games in Leisure Suit Larry. Im just kidding. Those were dog shit. I would have to say the arcade games in Bully. I liked the racing one and the sumo wrestling game wasn’t too bad after you get the hang of it.

  3. Aw man, Mikel and Dave have been laid off now? that sucks to hear guys ):

    Geez, Mikel must be cursed or something when it comes to working with magazines >>; Hope you can find a better, more rewarding and more fulfilling job soon!

  4. QOTW: Does the 2D sidescroller beat ’em up level from Saints Row IV count? If so, I’ll pick that one.

  5. The Mustachio whack-a-mole game in Left 4 Dead 2 is my most memorable memory of a game within a game, and that’s probably because there was an achievement attached to it to actually get a certain score on it which would in turn break the machine. It’s part of what makes the Dead Carnival level in that game so much fun. It now reminds me also of the game where you shoot at targets to get the Gnome Chompski garden gnome which also had an achievement attached to it to carry safely to the end of the level when you get on the chopper.

  6. First Chris, now you guys. I feel for ya, my job is also going through layoffs, ive been lucky so far, I’ll have to make a donation for VGA also.
    I played a lot of Sabaac in SW KOTOR, going to Vegas for EVO maybe one of the casino’s has Sabbaac 🙂 .
    Honorable mention to Galaga in Blades of Steel, first game I played with a game within a game, I thought it was such a cool concept.

  7. My fav game within a game? I will go with Triple Triad from Final Fantasy VIII. It’s not really that great but it was the first one that came to mind.

    Oh and while we on the subject, Fuck all of the mini games in Assassin’s Creed III. Those games were so fucked, who plays those dumb ass old games, Conner should have cut those game boards in half. Can you imagine in real life an Assassin sitting around like “Oh fuck I need to play some Connect 4”.

    P.S. Sorry to hear about the employment situation!, I hope you guys land somewhere cool (With tons of money and biznitches)

  8. I do not have a favorite game within game, but I would have to say the funniest one is the turkey punching game in the HD remake of Doom 3 for the 360… That shit is hysterical and you get an achievement for doing it a number of times. By the way, you guys should have a shirt with the racoon on the front of it.

  9. Sorry to hear about the layoffs, guys… it’s a bad week for LT hosts it seems. Fingers crossed you guys land on your feet soon

  10. QOTD: Cody Stoval already said my favorite but in Goat Simulator you can play the very topical “Flappy Goat” mini game on a TV in the Coffee Stain studio.

  11. the arcade in FF7 was fun, motorcycle game, sub simulator, and of course, feed mog. the card game in ff8 was awesome too, everyone in the world was a tabletop gamer

  12. Fallout 3’s text based adventure with Grognack the Barbarian, hidden away in Hubris comics was surprisingly fun and a great love letter to the long dead pioneers of pc gaming.

  13. QOTW: My favorite game within a game would have to be “Rapunzel” from Catherine. I really enjoyed the gameplay of Catherine, and it essentially worked as a training mode for the main game. It was different enough, focusing on number of moves rather than speed, and had a neat late 80s cabinet aesthetic.

  14. QOTW: Playing as your ancestor in Assassin’s Creed. Technically the entire series has been about playing a video game within a game and I can’t get enough of it. In either AC2 or Brotherhood Desmond’s comrades even make a joke about his weight in relation to spending too much time in the animus.

    Also in relation to last week’s QOTW that I didn’t get to answer: Desmond, Shaun, and Rebecca are my favorite trio from a game. Desmond is obviously the guy who gets shit done, but I would constantly hop out of the animus in recent games to hear snarky commentary from Shaun and entertaining quips from Rebecca. That’s why even though AC3 was technically flawed, it was probably my favorite game in the series for Shaun’s Animus database entries alone.

  15. omebody said it over on the laser time episode, but my hope is that you, Mikel will read this. Lasertime should do a Patreon campaign. I really REALLY think it would be successful if all of you guys went this route to get more support.

  16. I feel like I have to be the weeb here and clarify, yes, the persona things in JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure are called “Stands”. But unlike personas, any damage you deal to the stand is inflicted on it’s user as well. So a lot of fights in the manga end with the user suffering from whatever horrific head wound the stand receives.

    QOTW: Any one of the racing mini games in the Ratchet and Clank series, I even played the not-so-great hoverboard ones in the PSP game.

  17. QOTW: Having Pong during the loading screens for Test Drive on the PS2 was a pretty cool idea. Sometimes my friends and I would get so into the matches that we’d forget we were playing a racing game.

  18. QotW: I remember trying to win the gnome in the shooting gallery in Left 4 Dead 2’s Dark Carnival Campaign right when a horde was alerted. We were playing on advanced so my teammates were fighting off wave after wave of undead as I tried to get the high score. Once things quieted down and I won the gnome, we were pretty proud of ourselves. Despite the fact that the chapter just started, and all of our health was in the red…

  19. QOTW: Yeah, wrist pong in Commander Keen, old school bitches! Oh wait it was a smartwatch, yeah a smartwatch. Commander Keen did it first!

  20. QotW response:

    In the fantastic Pokémon remake title, Pokémon: Heart Gold/Soul Silver, the game center’s typical stupid slot machine was replaced with a surprisingly addictive game called “Voltorb Flip.” [see flash approximation here: Essentially a rows and column oriented minesweeper-alike, the combination of quick repay, short looping but catchy music [see: and in game cash to be earned resulted in my spending an inordinate amount of time there.

    Also, first time poster, listener since early Tdar. Got me through some long hours working towards a design degree. You all are great.

  21. QOTW: Liar’s Dice in Red Dead Redemption. I enjoyed it so much that I bought my own dice/cup set via the amazon links on

  22. I loved playing “Super Space K’noidtrix” in “The Adventures of Willy Beamish” on the Sega CD.

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