Little Shop of Platoons, Beavis & Butt-Head Scream At Rocky Balboa – Dec 16-22

A bloodthirsty plant terrorizes America while Japan discovers Kid Icarus and Charlie Sheen strikes an iconic pose for Oliver Stone. This week in 1996 saw Beavis & Butt-Head Do America and Scream hit theaters, while 2006 brought us Rocky Balboa and Dick in a Box.


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19 thoughts on “Little Shop of Platoons, Beavis & Butt-Head Scream At Rocky Balboa – Dec 16-22

  1. RIP to Alan Thicke, another weird coincidence in timing.

    My friend had seen BABES IN TOYLAND as a kid, and last year he brought it up and showed some of it to me because of mutual love of Keanu Reeves and holy crap is it bizarre / kind of terrible.

    And happy 10th anniversary to putting genitals in boxes, I still listen to that often to this day.

    1. AND HAPPY 20TH ANNIVERSARY TO SCREAM! It’s easily in my top 5 horror movies of all time and I couldn’t really love it more.

      On the topic of the Scream TV show, while it hasn’t been received well critically, I think it’s actually an excellent horror show. The marketing made it look crappy (plus it being an MTV teen show didn’t help), but after checking it out with a friend as a joke we ended up binging it all night because we were hooked from pretty much the first episode. Totally worth checking out on Netflix if you’re at all curious.

      Was glad to hear the movie discussed on this ep, hopefully y’all can do a commentary for Scream and Scream 2 sometime.

  2. I still maintain that a really well-done Super Metroid-style remake of Kid Icarus would be rad as shit! I acknowledge that the original game is sorta janky; but I just love the setting/vibe — the original artwork, character designs, music, etc. A super polished Nintendo game using Greek mythology tropes where you shoot things with arrows could be so awesome….

  3. Alan Thicke was also 69 when he died, not quite as important as David Bowie or Alan Rickman, though it’s surprising some of the well-known jingles and things he had a hand in.

    Was Diana eating during her movie segment? For shame! There must be a reason for so many podcasters needing to eat during the time that they’re recording, instead of before or after, but if she was eating, did it really need to be during the only part she actually is required to talk?

    1. Nope, I wasn’t eating, I’ve just been getting breathless lately trying to cover everything quickly. I save my snacking for wrestling talk.

  4. if you guys are missing Dick In A Box comedy, watch Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping. the most underrated comedy since MacGruber. No one saw it, and that sucks, because i’m laughing every 30-60 seconds front to back.

    also, Tim Meadows hasn’t been this funny in years.

    1. Yeah I saw Popstar in theaters and loved it so I was super disappointed to it raked in nothing at the box office. It sucks how underrated their movies have been.

    2. Why is it that Tim Meadows only seems to pop up in movies produced by or starring other former SNL cast members? The guy is consistently hilarious in everything!

  5. I want to comment on something you guys brought up in the 1986 segment while talking about Little Shop of Horrors: The 1980s’ nostalgia for the 1950s, and our current nostalgia for the 1980s.

    First off, you guys should read an excellent book called Back to Our Future: How the 1980s Explains the World We Live in Now– Our Culture Our Politics, Our Everything by David Sirota. (Okay, it’s a long full title, but it’s apt.)

    Nostalgia for the 1950s in the 1980s wasn’t just about bringing back pop culture from adult’s childhoods, it was a subconscious (sometimes conscious) backlash to the cultural progressivism of the 1960s and 1970s. “The ’80s” (which really began as a distinct cultural era in the late 1970s) embodied this conservative snap back to the white male dominated politics of the 1950s. Brett accurately brought up how in Back to the Future, Marty travels from 1985 to 1955, but look at all of the implications made during that trip: the 1985 Hill Valley is decrepit, crime ridden, falling apart; the 1955 Hill Valley is wholesome, simpler, free of the modern era’s complexity (and diversity). You know the reason Zemeckis wanted Michael J. Fox for the part of Marty McFly? Because of his role as Alex Keaton on Family Ties! The entire premise of that show is the progressive politics of the baby boomer generation has failed and looks absurd and ridiculous compared to hip Reagan-style conservative politics of the 1980s, embodied by Fox’s character. Hell, Reagan’s rise to political power is itself massive nostalgia for the 1950s, when his acting career was at its (modest) peak! You can go through and look at so much else from the 1980s that feshitize 1950s conservatism: Happy Days, Grease, Family Ties, Back to the Future, most John Hughes movies, the return of rockabilly and doo wop (like the Stray Cats, or “Crazy Little Thing Called Love” by Queen and “For the Longest Time by Billy Joel), or even Madonna’s obsession with 1950s starlets and classical Hollywood fashion. All in the Family could NOT have existed in the 1980s, which is why its popularity waned in the late 70s, before it was replaced int he 1980s by the spin-off Archie Bunker’s Place, which focused heavily on the super conservative bigot character that was a joke in the original series!

    So the point Sirota makes in his book is that our current obsession with the 1980s is actually itself a filtered nostalgia for the 1950s, because so much of popular 1980s culture wasn’t entirely original to begin with. And our political climate looks so similar now, too: Republican politicians are obsessed with Reagan, there is profound cultural backlash to the progressivism of Obama’s presidency, and white people are trying to reassert their white ethnic identity. Our nostalgia for the 1980s plays right into all of that again. And it’s not just the Goldbergs or Stranger Things, it’s our music like Gotye or Lady Gaga’s imitation of Madonna.

    It’s a super interesting book that goes really in depth into how pop culture eras are really defined by the pervasive politics and attitudes of the time. Great Read!

    1. This sounds like “Backlash” by Susan Falludi (a feminist staple) writ large. That social change is then met by a “return to values” that swings things back the other way. Interesting. I’ve definitely been thinking about the election as being a backlash to social progress (some real, some assumed), but no matter what, I REFUSE to be nostalgic for the late ’80s/early ’90s. The first Bush administration had the ugliest aesthetic of all time.

      1. I personally have a weird obsession with 1980s mainstream pop culture, especially movies. I was only alive for a few years in that era (born in 1988, but I consider the “80s era” to go from the late 1970s to the very early 1990s, until grunge, The Simpsons, and Seinfeld were influencing culture on a large scale), but the almost completely transparent distillation of Reagan-style conservative politics in almost everything is fascinating, in the same way that the New Wave cinema of the late 1960s and early 1970s was a mostly subconscious representation of grappling with fundamentally corrupt institutions and moral relativism that was a hallmark of those decades. But those movies tended to be very artistic and measured thematically, whereas 80s movies are so carefree in their implicit messaging, although the production process is so much slicker and the message packaged so much more neatly.

        I’ll definitely check out “Backlash,” though, it sounds fascinating and right up my alley. Thanks for the recommendation!

  6. I’m sorry for the block of text in my above comment– I didn’t realize my formatting would get so squished. =/

  7. I found an IGN article on that upcoming Beavis and Butt-head set you guys mentioned, and it sounds like it’s just a compilation of all three volumes of the Mike Judge Collection, the 2011 series and the movie. Sounds like if you already have all that stuff, you’re not getting anything new.

  8. Hey Hosts
    Quick thing: I think you did Rocky an injustice. Someone (I can’t remember whom.) Said that the simulated fight, was a stupid premise for the movie. What I’d don’t think you realise, is that it was based on a real thing. This is based on the Muhammad Ali Vs Rocky Marciano “The Super Fight”. The idea of the simulation fight isn’t unheard of, and a fight promoter is the perfect type of shameless money maker to suggest a heavyweight world champ beat up a retiree.
    Point is, none of this is something that couldn’t happen in real life.
    Even the fact that Rocky owns a restaurant is a long standing retired boxer tradition.
    Thanks for reading.

  9. Great episode as always, the “I love you, always forever” song is something my man has always sung to me and I never realized it was a real song until this episode. I always thought it was a cute little thing he sang to me because the lyrics were way to basic to be a real song.

  10. I love the show and always enjoy the comedy. I understand that the show is comedic and you aren’t insulting or making fun of certain circumstances.

    However, I had a feeling that you would cover We Are Marshall on your show. I’m glad you did. I hope that others see the movie and get a chance to see what happened in a small town in West Virginia.

    As an alumnus of Marshall, you covered the movie in an ok light. I understand that you are making fun of the movie and not the event that happened.

    Hollywood did a decent job of capturing what happened and how it effected the town. There is a fountain on campus with 75 points, one for each person who died in the crash. There is a ceremony every year turning off the fountain (on the day of the crash.) It’s televised locally and shown via twitch or other streaming services for the rest of us to watch. It’s usually a few hours and ends with our football team leaving flowers at the fountain.

    The crash happened many many years ago (1970 to be exact) but it still effects the town to this day. It’s always in the back of the mind in Huntington, the football team, the university and the alumni.

    Thank you for bringing this movie to light and allowing others to hear about this story.

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