Freddy Krueger fights the Dream Warriors, Jamie Foxx goes on a Booty Call, Wild Hogs roar and a Black Snake Moans – Feb 24-Mar 2

A winner is us in 1987 as we discuss NES’ Pro Wrestling, Some Kind of Wonderful, and A Nightmare on Elm Street 3. 1997 gets raunchy with Booty Call, Sex and Candy, and Al Bundy getting dumped. When 2007 rolls around, Tim Allen takes to the road in Wild Hogs, Samuel L. Jackson tries to tame Christina Ricci in Black Snake Moan, and we learn who is truly smarter than a fifth grader.

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1987:

News
Steven Luben (36) – a Vietnam Vet and his girlfriend Diane Felner are sentenced to four years in prison in London for supplying heroin to singer Boy George

The Walt Disney Co. opens its first store near Los Angeles. Spokesman Tom Deegan said that if the store is successful, others might follow.

President Reagan “blows-up” and denounces reports as “despicable fiction” that his wife, Nancy, helped force Donald Regan from office. Regan was the White House Chief Of Staff.

Movies

Number One With a Bullet – Robert Carradine, Billy Dee Williams, Cannon Films

Some Kind of Wonderful – John Hughes, Eric Stoltz

Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors – is also #1 this week

TV

2/25/87 – An entertainment icon makes his final acting appearance on an episode of Magnum PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHCuCP66V_4 (play to 14s)

2/26/87 – Michael Gross (best known as the father from Family Ties) guest stars on Night Court as the lecherous boss of Markie Post’s character

2/27/87 – In an episode of Mr. Belvedere, Kevin (the older brother) loses his virginity to an older woman and moves out when his parents disapprove of his new flame

2/28/87 – In the TV movie Pals , Don Ameche and George C Scott star as Two retired fishing buddies who stumble on an unmarked suitcase filled with three million dollars in cash. Then the fun starts flying as fast as bullets.

3/1/87 – The New Adventures of Jonny Quest ends its single-season 13 episode run

3/1/87 – The TV movie Casanova airs, about the famous lover

3/1/87 – The TV movie Dirty Dozen: The Deadly Mission airs, starring two guys who were probably not all that deadly anymore

3/2/87 – The Betty Ford Story airs on ABC, about former first lady Betty Ford, her struggles with addiction, and the establishment of the Betty Ford clinic

Games

Pro Wrestling

Slalom – first Western NES game, first game by Rare, David Wise composer, Stamper brothers developed it, beginning of a 12-13 year relationship. It’s on Rare Replay!

Music

Feb. 26: The Beatles are first released on the new-fangled CD.
Life As We Know It – REO Speedwagon’s final Top 40 album, includes song “One Too Many Girlfriends” which is pretty much airing their dirty laundry and conflicts.
Freedom – 14th Santana album. Band formed in SF, had numerous members over the years, part of their many years of declining popularity and sales. Carlos Santana will return in 1999 with Supernatural
Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know – Dead or Alive
Boin-Go – Oingo Boingo sixth album, no hits lept out at me
Livin’ on a prayer still #1

1997:

Music

Marcy Playground – first released along with Sex and Candy, gets more play in 1998
Somewhere more Familiar – Sister Hazel second album, All for you

News

Feb. 28: North Hollywood Shootout
(From wikipedia): An armed confrontation between two heavily armed and armored bank robbers and members of the Los Angeles Police Department Both perpetrators were killed, 12 police officers and 8 civilians were injured. Most of it was broadcast live on TV by new helicopters. In about half an hour, nearly 2,000 rounds of ammunition fired by the robbers and police.

Movies

Booty Call – Jamie Foxx

Donnie Brasco – Al Pacino, Johnny Depp
TRAILER, https://youtu.be/rsBx_eTVSpQ?t=4s

Hard Eight – PT Anderson’s first feature w/ Gwyneth Paltrow, Philip Baker Hall

TV

2/24/97 – a new digital puzzle board debuts on The Wheel of Fortune, which allows Vanna White to reveal letters with just a simple touch of a button. The original letter-flipping style lasted 22 years, which means by 2020, the digital style will have been used longer.

2/24/97 – After two seasons and 34 episodes, the WB drama Savannah ends its run. Garth Ancier, president of the WB’s entertainment division, attributed its cancellation to the fact that “serial dramas don’t repeat well, making the investment too expensive”.

2/24/97 – Al and Peg BREAK UP on a three-part episode of Married With Children. The first two parts aired this week, and the couple breaks up after they perform poorly on a “know your spouse” game show. In the final part airing the next week, Peg has little trouble finding someone new while Al moves out and keeps striking out, however Peg’s new man is mean to Bud and Kelly so Al and Peg make up.

Feb. 26: Grammys hosted by Ellen. Big winners were Eric Clapton/Babyface “Change the World,” Celine Dion “Falling Into You.” Best new artist: Leann Rimes, beating Garbage, Jewel and No Doubt.

2/28/97 – In another “this is what Family Matters is now” episodes, Eddie gets into the transformation chamber to transform Eddie Winslow into Eddie Urkel to gain Steve’s smarts, then hopes to clean up on a game show. However, Eddie learns a hard lesson about working hard when Urkel is one of his opponents. Meanwhile, Maxine invites Laura to see Blackstreet in concert, but it just so happens to be on the same night that Laura promised Carl that she would spend some time with him.

2/28/97 – Walt Disney World’s 25th Anniversary Party aired on ABC. Melissa Joan Hart (Sabrina, the Teenage Witch) and Will Friedle (Boy Meets World) hosted. Joining in the festivities were guests Michael J. Fox, Rosie O’Donnell, Donna Summer, the Village People, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Drew Carey and Gloria Estefan

2/24/97 – NBC airs the TV movie Dying to Belong, with a star studded teen cast; A collegian (Hilary Swank) and a school reporter (Mark-Paul Gosselaar) seek justice for a fellow freshman (Jenna von Oy) killed during sorority hazing. Sarah Chalke is also in this!

3/2/97 – Apocalypse Watch, a TV movie based on a Robert Ludlum novel, airs
TRAILER :https://youtu.be/IWNV8q028rs

Games

Tons of PS1 games – Spider, cybernetic spider with scientist’s mind inside and it’s 2.5D
The Crow: City of Angels PS1 game, way after the movie, along with ID4 PS1 game
Mechwarrior 2 – Saturn and PS1 conversion of 1995 game. Mech simulation, choose rig, weapons, heatsinks, total customization and feeling of being in the shit.
Nanotek Warrior – tube shooter ship is flying down or through a tube and you just avoid or shoot shit
Test Drive Off-Road – first off-road portion of this usually-mediocre / average series. Eve of Destruction may be the best / most known? Test Drive Unlimited in 06

WCW vs The World – released in Japan by The Man Breeze, who would become AKI, meaning this was the first of the Virtual Pro Wrestling series. Localized as the first Monday Night Wars WCW game. Team goes on to make No Mercy

Die Hard Arcade – Saturn port. Beat ‘em up that was called Dynamite Deka, but Fox Interactive slapped DH license on it elsewhere. Dreamcast sequel was Dynamite Cop.

2007:

Music

Yours Truly, Angry Mob – Kaiser Chiefs second album, Ruby, Heat Dies Down, Everything is Average Nowadays

News

Premier magazine, which launched in 1987, is shutting down. It was one of the first entertainment magazines to cover the inner-Hollywood happenings

Movies

Wild Hogs

Carlin’s inspirational bit:

Black Snake Moan

Zodiac

Razzies: Basic Instinct 2 beats four much, much worse movies: BloodRayne, Little Man, Lady in the Water, and Wicker Man.

Oscars: Hosted by Ellen. Big winners: The Departed, Forest Whitaker, Helen Mirren, Alan Arkin, Jennifer Hudson and An Inconvenient Truth

TV

3/1 – NBC Universal launches Chiller, the first US cable/satellite channel devoted to horror programming.

2/27/07 – Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader debuts

2/27/07 – SyFy airs the TV movie Fire Serpent

Games

Jade Empire came to PCs, post-KOTOR but basically a year until Mass Effect

Bullet Witch – Atari pub, OXM gave a 4/10.

SSX Blur – EA still trying to make this happen
Alien Hominid XBLA – Behemoth, Newgrounds in 2002, start of their ascent

Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection as a PSP download on PS3 – we talked about this last year

Peggle – debuts on PC via PopCap games, comes to consoles in a couple of years. Goofy pachinko with really groovy music,

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32 thoughts on “Freddy Krueger fights the Dream Warriors, Jamie Foxx goes on a Booty Call, Wild Hogs roar and a Black Snake Moans – Feb 24-Mar 2

  1. I watched the Nightmare on Elm Street series much later in life than Halloween and Friday the 13th, and while it is largely crappy, DREAM WARRIORS is pretty damn good, and up there with the original and Wes Craven’s New Nightmare as the best the series had to offer. Gotta love that young Larry Fishbourne.

    I saw Wild Hogs at a birthday party in March of 07, and even as a soon-to-be 11 year old, I thought it was pretty bad. I have not watched it since, but whenever that and Old Dogs come up in conversation, I usually confuse the two.

  2. Haven’t had a chance to hear the episode yet, but the 80s segment had better have closed out the Dokken “Dream Warriors” because Conan Exiles isn’t the only thing with dong physics and I need a boner

  3. I’m a passionate fan of you guys and listen to multiple shows with an outlook to contribute through Patreon now that I can budget for such!

    I love listening to you all equal, it’s a true ensemble.

    Chris: You do this thing that my best friend does and I never know how to phrase it without *imposing* on basic human rights….

    My best friend doesn’t just burp – – He will relish a sound he can make from it, and sometimes doubly blow the burp from his mouth like it’s cigarette smoke – sometimes so inconsiderate that it goes in someones face.

    You used to burp a lot on air, and you’ve failed it back to the point that I figured it wasn’t natural and surely somebody said something.

    Let me just say: I can choose NOT to listen, and NOT to care because it doesn’t *hurt* anyone and it’s all really about how I’m *taking* it and nothing *you’re* doing – – – I don’t think you’re tying to gross anyone out or make anyone feel uncomfortable.

    I can’t explain it, but when I hear someone burp like that they sound like a filthy, inconsiderate beast that’s gurgling foul garbage juice. It’s the bottom rung of “unpleasant” and at the very least it makes one wonder “Surely you’re not *unaware* of what it sounds like – surely you’re not unaware of how another person would feel hearing it let alone being in the room” – – – because I only have to hear it (because again – HUGE fan of you all) – – but even people in the room will make a remark and you seem to just mutter and move on not addressing that they’re politely (or passive aggressively) letting you know it’s not cool.

    If not for me, some stranger with an opinion I should keep to MYSELF, then do it for your friends in the room (like Diana, who sounds like a right, proper lady lol) – – – – And burping isn’t something you’re scheduling or intending to convey somehow, it’s just something that comes out of us randomly, you’re practically a victim of circumstance – – but so are sneezes and yawns, and somewhere along the way we made it a natural knee-jerk protocol to cover up or excuse ourselves.

    You don’t sound like a burp is happening, you sound like you’re giving it a playful push to have a nice bubbly sound, and it’s anything but nice.
    ———

    None of this feels right to communicate because I feel like it’s up there with controlling freedom of speech or telling someone at work not to SMILE – – – I’m simply putting it out there in case you value constructive feedback from people who genuinely like you and what you have to SAY – – –

    I eagerly want to hear EVERYTHING you and the gang say because I support you and admire you, and when those relished burps come, the unpleasantness coupled with my inference of there being no consideration for your friends or listeners simply takes me out of the podcast and interrupts a flow I reckon you’re trying to cultivate…

  4. I like Shutter Island more than the Departed, which I think is one of those movies like Oceans Eleven which is stacked with famous actors SO YOU KNOW ITS GOOD.
    And I care about a live action Beauty and The Beast.

    1. I have a chip on my shoulder about the Departed considering it is a remake of a HK film. I’ve only seen Infernal Affairs once, and thought it was nifty, but it’s been over a decade so I have to get a copy again. As soon as I finish a good portion of my playlist, I guess I have to watch both.

      Haven’t seen Shutter Island, though I read the book. But since its release the main plot twist has been used SOOO many times like in sitcoms, that I don’t think I want to watch it now.

  5. Kesha is most definitely NOT released from her contracts, and almost all of those court cases have ended in Dr. Luke’s favor, with the exception of his defamation lawsuit against her mother which was recently thrown out.

  6. I remember when Chiller first came out I was super excited, but it was total garbage, it only got good movies like last years, thats like ten years of trash, they, also have this washed out, grey looking filter or something on their channel that makes every movie look worse. They showed Cabin In The Woods recently and it looked horrible.

    1. Yeah, there’s no way in hell we’re allowed to watch 1970s 1980s horror movies in their original gorey, considering FCC regulations, cable or digital subchannels. I heard on the Nerdist there was this curated streaming service that shows nothing but horror movies, that sounds like a better fit for viewers today considering the content.

  7. I got flashbacks when you guys mentioned the North Hollywood bank robbery since it really affected me growing up in that area. The Bank of America that was robbed was and still is my mom’s bank. And my high school, Ulysses S Grant, is only a couple of miles away. I was in school while the shooting was going on, and we were put on lock down in case the robbers made their way toward that area.

    About a decade later they built a junior high across the street from the bank. I guess they felt the bank would never get robbed again?

  8. Whenever I hear the name Don Ameche I hear it said the way Weird Al says it in his version of Peter and Wolf. It’s the same with Shirley Maclane.

  9. y’know, thanks for that Carlin clip. I can’t count how many times i’ve heard that but over the years, i wore out all his albums. but i think i need his words more than ever these days.

    i agree with just about everything the man said, besides his hatred for walkmans and headphones.

  10. I was listening to this while sick with a fever and fell asleep around halfway through 1997. My brain took over and I was suddenly at a live recording of the show in my Grandma’s living room. I thought this was pretty awesome, until as the episode ended my fever addled mind figured this must mean that the 3T crew was leaving.
    So, I watched as they all hopped into a MadMax style cattle car and drove off toward the interstate.
    Great show, and thanks for the live performance.

  11. Brett I’m loving the Britishisms, ‘taking the piss’ and ‘tits up’ are firm favourites over here. We’ll have you saying queue next.

  12. Wow, Happy 30th anniversary Disney Store!
    It’s funny to hear Chris talk about Plush Mountain (that’s the official name of the fixture) because when I worked at the DisSto that was the biggest bitch to keep clean and organized. People always seem to want to yank out the most load-bearing Simba, sending the rest of the plushies on that chunk of the mountain tumbling down.

    Kinda Gross Storytime!
    So one day I was working at the cash register, when a lady came up and asked where the changing rooms were. I pointed her to the back of the store and she immediately ran off. I should have made note of the fact that she wasn’t holding any clothes she wanted to try on, and the distraught look in her eye, but whatever.
    Fast forward to half an hour later, I’m folding up wadded Buzz Lightyear shirts in the kids section when another lady quietly gets my attention and pulls me aside.
    “Um…there’s a, uh, smell coming from the stuffed animals.” And motions back to Plush Mountain. Maybe you have a hunch where this story is going.
    I go back to Plush Mountain and something does indeed reek. My first thought is ‘fuck, that rat we’ve been trying to catch has up and died in Plush Mountain’. I wish. With no gloves on whatsoever, I jam my hand into the smelliest part of Plush Mountain. I feel something wet. I grab whatever it could be.
    It is an *EXCEPTIONALLY* used maxi pad. Look, I’m a lady myself, but I have never, NEVER seen a pad so sopping with blood. Whoever was wearing it must either have some medical condition or, I don’t know, was wearing it for days on end.
    Suddenly everything clicks: the distraught lady who wanted to know where our changing rooms were. She had pulled this thing off and, realizing we don’t have trashcans in our changing rooms, dumped the evidence in Plush Mountain.
    We had to destroy a lot of Marie (from Aristocats) stuffed animals that day, they all had bloodsmears on ’em.

    ANYWAY, thanks for the podcast, LaserTimers, and I’m super psyched for next week’s podcast, being a Mar 9 ’87 baby myself!

    1. I have never bought anything from the Disney store, and I’ve been to two. One in Rockefeller Center or was it Herald Square? I don’t remember. I think there was one in this New Jersey Mall. I have a fond memory of the WB store in WTC. 🙁

  13. Diana was almost correct about the connection between Heat and the North Hollywood shootout, except it’s the other way around. The shooters were inspired to rob a bank using body armor and assault weapons after watching Heat.

    Great show as always! Keep up the good work.

  14. Woo this is my birthday week AND this time next year, you guys will be discussing the year I was born as I will turn the big 3-0.

    HOWEVER THIS YEAR IS 29. Wooooooo, last year of the roaring twenties! Celebrating by buying legos.

  15. Okay, I have a special connection to “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader” that few people can claim: the host, Jeff Foxworthy, is my uncle. I don’t talk to that side of my family all that much anymore– they’re VERY conservative and I’m VERY liberal– but Jeff himself is one of the nicest, most down to earth guys you’ll ever meet.

    A while back, when the show was still on the air, I visited that side of the family while they were in LA filming a season. (Most game shows film a whole season in about a month– that’s the only reason my uncle agreed to do it, because he could take his whole family from Atlanta where they live to LA for filming, then go back.) They let me sit in the control room during a couple episodes, and it’s pretty remarkable to see how they shoot game shows. For one, they edit the whole thing live while filming, so as soon as the game is done, they already have the episode mostly ready to go. And for two, I could see what all of the 5th Graders were writing on their screens, which you only get to see during the episode if a contestant uses them as a sort of life-line. And let me tell you, those kids are WICKED smart, far smarter than most of the contestants. And I’m not even saying that as a knock on the contestants, because they’re all at least of average intelligence– like Brett pointed out, the show’s premise wasn’t that people are dumb, but that a lot of basic info you learn in elementary school isn’t retained if you don’t use it consistently, and many of us don’t.

    Incidentally, one of the producers on the show is from my hometown of Derby, Kansas. And when the crew found out that I also grew up there, I inadvertently ruined some funny lies he had been telling them about Derby, preying on people’s misconceptions of Kansas. “Did you ride a horse to school, too?!” they asked, to which I had to reply “…what? No. My high school had 2,400 students. Derby is a suburb of Wichita, the biggest city in Kansas. It looks like any other city.” Your image of Kansas as a giant wheat field with a few barns and some sporadic sunflowers isn’t ENTIRELY inaccurate, there are definitely places like that. But there are also big cities, too. Looper is set in Kansas, and it’s actually not a terrible depiction of what the state is like: big city giving way to endless plains of crops.

    Anyway, just wanted to share a bit of a connection I have to a topic in today’s episode. I know Jeff Foxworthy is seen as the dumb hick comedian, but there’s a difference between him and Larry the Cable guy. Foxworthy’s redneck jokes are eminently relatable, and were always intended to show that EVERYONE is like that, even if you try really hard not to be. He always described redneck as a “glorious lack of sophistication,” and that includes people from everywhere.

  16. Chris is right about PTA’s Hard Eight going by a different name. I’m a bit misty on the details but the studios had it originally as Sydney and tried to block PTA from final cut. He later went on his own to edit the film and submitted it to Cannes as Hard Eight. It received a lot of praise and the studio soon afterwards released the version PTA wanted. Since then, PTA always made sure to get final say over the released cut of the film because of what happened with Hard Eight. Also, you are severely underselling Hoffman in Hard Eight. In the short 4 minutes that he is in the film, he steals the movie (at least for me). Hoffman is the best, RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5m6FrFsi8Y

  17. Ooh. I hope Lasertime will stream some Die Hard Arcade if anybody can obtain a copy of the Japanese PS2 version. I played that and the Dreamcast sequel and it was just hilarious considering the crazy bosses I fought,.

  18. Michael Gross being a sleazy guy in a courtroom extends to his roles in Law & Order. He was the bad guy in at least three different L&O shows, each one sleazier than the last!

  19. oh god i remember my mom getting me that terrible Hulk PS1 game at Ames when I was really young. Never got past the first stage. I really hope that gets featured on the shit show

  20. Man, just utterly no-selling BOI-NGO? “Not My Slave” is probably my all time favorite song by them, and probably top 10 songs for me ever.

  21. Okay……Just have to say this. I’m a new supporter to the Network and this show is one of the best things out there. This a show my parents even would get a kick out of, as soon as they figure out the meaning of “Podcast”

    More importantly, I have a weird connection to Mr. Belvedere. I am from Beaver Falls, PA. Which is where the show is “based.” The show was based on a play written when Beaver Falls was a much more pleasant place. That time had long passed when the show aired. Anybody that can afford a butler does NOT live in Beaver Falls. It’s the saddest of Rust Belt towns.

    As a kid it was a fun place to be; like growing up on the set from escape to New York. We had defunct incline lines, abandoned steel mills. There was even a defunct chinaware manufacturer where we would break plates and coffee cups. Many kids have regional activities that define their childhoods: Swimming, sailing, hiking, riding….
    Kids in Beaver Falls broke the detritus of industry by day and wondered where Mr. Belvedere’s house was at night.

    1. This is a really cool story, and “The Detritus of Industry” would also make a really good band name. Or at least the album name for an indie band.

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