Talking Simpsons – The Boy Who Knew Too Much

Bart just wants to skip school for a day, but then ends up as a key witness in a celebrity trial of the Quimby family. Will Bart expose himself in the Beat-Up Waiter case? And are the hosts so out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong…

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30 thoughts on “Talking Simpsons – The Boy Who Knew Too Much

  1. -Schools being incredibly cheap and horrible to the kids as a result, while the outside is an incredibly pleasant and appealing day, feels super real

    “Am I out of touch? No, it’s the children who are wrong” is so fucking accurate it hurts. Just see schools approach on bullying, technology, trends/memes, or anything really. Especially relevant in 2017 with how they treated 13 Reason’s Why

    Like you guys, I always thought Skinner going through the water was just a Terminator reference.

    Homer as a jury member is hilarious, though as a person who has an interest/ hobby in the legal world (haven taken several classes on it and following stuff on my own), an opportunity to sit in on a case like this as a jury member would be pretty cool. Like it was pointed out, Homer would absolutely not be able to stay on the jury if his son became a major witness.

    Apu yelling at Skinner with “what do you mean ‘slip up’? He confessed!” marks two episodes in a row with him calling out Skinner on his BS and I love it.

  2. I like Jarod Carmichael a lot especially his standup sadly he quit the show because NBC pulled an episode about random shootings the day that Congressman got shot between that and Powerless it’s.l been roof stoof for comedies I enjoy

  3. I kind of wish lasertime could find a host who is a parent to provide that perspective as I think the lack of that perspective can kind of be jarring at times when covering family issues like the Simpsons. I get that you all have memories of school sucking (as do I) but kids really do have to go to school and watching a show go, “School Sucks!” is a different experience when you have a kid who has to go to school then when you are a single person whose school days are long gone.

    1. That doesn’t change that public schools are painfully underfunded, do as little as possible to grown young minds into fully formed adults, and they do nothing to prepare kids for the adult world. It’s why we have so many dumb kids now- https:www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/15/seven-percent-of-americans-think-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows-and-thats-not-even-the-scary-part/

      I did my part to be a parent- I got a vasectomy when I was 23, because the world we’re leaving for “our” kids is a fucking nightmare planet full of stupid people who don’t know how to tie their own shoes.

      …Besides the LT crew know parents. None of them want to be on the show lol

      1. OK, first you seem to be taking my comment that the SHOW (of which you are not part of as far as I can tell) could use a parental insight as a personal attack on you. I don’t think that is a productive way to go through life.
        Do people who have lived through an experience have an insight into that experience that those who do not lack? Of course. That’s part of the human condition. If this were “Talking Office” and none of the hosts had ever worked in an office before I had suggested that it would be useful to have a host who had, would that be unreasonable?
        Also, US schools are funded more than any other country in the world, http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-education-spending-tops-global-list-study-shows/ -“The United States spent more than $11,000 per elementary student in 2010 and more than $12,000 per high school student. When researchers factored in the cost for programs after high school education such as college or vocational training, the United States spent $15,171 on each young person in the system — more than any other nation covered in the report.

        That sum inched past some developed countries and far surpassed others. Switzerland’s total spending per student was $14,922 while Mexico averaged $2,993 in 2010. The average OECD nation spent $9,313 per young person.

        As a share of its economy, the United States spent more than the average country in the survey. In 2010, the United States spent 7.3 percent of its gross domestic product on education, compared with the 6.3 percent average of other OECD countries. Denmark topped the list on that measure with 8 percent of its gross domestic product going toward education.

        Spending, of course, only tells part of the story and does not guarantee students’ success. The United States routinely trails its rival countries in performances on international exams despite being among the heaviest spenders on education.”

    2. Yeah, and even worse are the actual Simpsons writers who’re putting out this ‘anti-school’ agenda in the first place! They’re probably single and childless as well!!

      1. That’s just silly. Matt Groening, for instance, was a married father of two when the show premiered and while I don’t have a biography of every writer who worked on the Simpson’s it’s a virtual certainly that there were parents in the writer’s room; the show “gets” parenthood too much for parents to have not been part of the process. The Simpsons is a show about a family and as such it covers both parenthood AND childhood. The hosts of Talking Simpsons can recall what it was like to be a child when they are reviewing the show but when it comes to the parenthood aspects it’s a 404 error-information-not-found type situation and my point was that the podcast could use that perspective as well.

    3. As much as I enjoy these guys, this is a good point. I’d love to hear someone who is a parent discuss watching classic Simpsons episodes and how their reaction has changed to heartwarming moments. Maybe listener letters could fill in the gap?

      I can’t agree about the “school sucks” thing though. I’m not a parent, but I was a kid in the 90’s. We didn’t need the Simpsons to tell us school sucked. On the Simpsons every institution is a farce. The police and politicians are incompetent and corrupt and the reverend of the church seems disinterested in his parishioners. The fact that the Simpsons was willing to go after these institutions when most other sitcoms would treat them like they’re unassailable is why people love it.

      1. I’m not saying the Simpsons can’t or shouldn’t go after school as an institution. I’m saying watching them do so as as a 15 year old kid in 1994 was a different experience than seeing them do so as a 39 year old parent of two in 2017. And that one of the things Talking Simpsons is about is talking about the differences in how the show was viewed when it aired and how it is viewed today.

    4. I get what you mean. I’d hate to have a “token parent” on the show, but once in a while there’s a moment in which they just don’t know something about parenting and I wish I could quickly interject. I don’t blame them for this at all, since they can’t do anything about it.

      Hell, recently my six-year-old was watching a YouTube video about some toys he likes and one of the hosts was showing off a cheap Doodle Jump clone. At one point the host says “if you fall, you die” like basically anyone would say about a video game. The problem is that my son found that hilarious, and for the last couple of days he’s been laughing and repeating “if you fall, you die”. (He’s also on the autism spectrum, so he tends to get REALLY hooked on things he finds funny for a little while.) Fortunately, it’s summer vacation, but I get so worried when he repeats stuff like that any time he’s going to be around teachers and other kids. I totally understand how my parents felt about me hearing certain things on TV when I was young (but I still think they were WAY too sensitive).

    5. For what it’s worth, season five’s writing staff was largely young and childless, so they were definitely drawing upon their memories of going to school in the ’70s/’80s.

  4. So I spent the 5th grade in 4H, for what reasons I do not know. The highlights of my experience:

    -Lots of boring meetings

    -A convention trip to a nice hotel in Nashville, where most of my time was spent playing WWF Wrestlefest in the arcade and existing on a diet of gummi bears and pizza

    -The ensuing flu epidemic we brought back with us, which was enough to cancel school roughly from Thanksgiving on through the new year

    All in all, totally worth it.

    1. I went to 4H camp once summer bc my friend convinced me to go.
      It was fucking miserable, it smelled like shit, the food was shit, older kids were awful, counselors/teachers did bare minimum and mostly talked amongst themselves and the bathrooms were so awful I avoided pooping all week and they had big one room showers so no fucking way I showered, just swam in the pool.
      Guy in bunk nxt to mine found poopstained underwear in his cupboard. One night ppl boarded into our cabin bc they thought a stranger was walking around the camp.
      The nightly dance courting parties made me so fucking sad I cried and found out I could just go to the cafeteria and eat ice cream and watch andy griffith and milo and otis, which I did for the rest of the week.
      And my mom told me that counted as my vacation that year.

      Hated it, Hate camping, Fuck camp, burn it to the ground I say.

    1. I can’t speak for the LT crew, but I’m a very liberal guy and I don’t exclusively vote democrat because of idiots like him and Anthony Weiner.

      I mean… until 2012, Obama and Hillary were against gay marriage. So, I try to stay intellectually honest enough to recognize that the main party I vote for have a lot of fuckups in it 😉

      1. half of Democrats are corporatists, like most politicians, we need the Bernie People’s Party

        also go on Chapo

  5. I remember SeaQuest. At first, they were so into the science, that the head of the Oceanographic Institute would speak at the end of the episode, talking about the real science of the episode.

    Then, shit got unreal.

    I think the last episode I saw was where the sub went through an underwater time portal, that transported them to the future. They couldn’t go back, because the past “wasn’t there” or something.

    They investigate the surface, and find a city deserted, with two giant robots fighting each other. They somehow deduce that they can’t go to the past, because there is no future. There is no future, because humans are extinct. (Good thing it wasn’t the Dodo controlling the nature of time).

    They find a teenage girl and boy, who are remotely controlling the robots in as a kind of VR game. They have to get these two off the VR headsets so they can repopulate the species. How do they become grandparents? Don’t think about it.

    I felt duped by the giant robots in the promos. I was really into Mechwarrior at the time. But this is one of the worst sci-fi TV episodes I’ve ever seen.

  6. Not sure about production on Simpsons but most aired episodes are numbered differently than production. I’m guessing this and the previous episode were deliberately produced without Skinner continuity for that reason. That and it helps with playing episodes out of order for syndication. You guys know this already but you’re are having fun it’s cool that you care so much about the characters. As someone who works in animation, it’s always nice to hear that passion! Thanks guys for another great show.

  7. Something that bothered me rewatching this episode. This is a criminal trial so why the heck is Lionel Hutz taking on the prosecutor role? He’s an inept attorney, not a prosecutor!

    1. Actually, there’s a deleted scene from this episode that shows Quimby pulled some strings to have Hutz be the prosecutor. We go over every deleted scene from season 5 in an upcoming Patreon-only episode.

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