Vin Diesel head to Babylon, Jason Statham and the two guns, and you will believe a horse can talk! – Aug 24-30: Thirty Twenty Ten

Bobcat Goldthwait makes his first truly great movie, Metallica delivers justice, Guy Ritchie burst onto the scene, Kevin Smith sees his movie hilariously butchered, we head back to Sleepaway Camp, and Lauryn Hill’s Everything is Everything is everything! all this and more on this edition of Thirty Twenty Ten, your weekly journey back to the week that was 30, 20 and 10 years ago…

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12 thoughts on “Vin Diesel head to Babylon, Jason Statham and the two guns, and you will believe a horse can talk! – Aug 24-30: Thirty Twenty Ten

  1. A big omission (for me) from the music of 1988 is the self-titled debut album from Danzig released on August 30th on Rick Rubin’s Def American label. Interesting parallels with some other musical mentions here. For one, the band only was signed because Metallica members James Hetfield and Cliff Burton encouraged Rubin to check out Glenn Danzig’s post Misfits outfit Samhain and ended up inking them. Hetfield actually has an uncredited cameo as a backup singer on the album’s opener, “Twist of Cain,” and the song “Possession.” Middle School has been a topic of late here and Danzig was my high school jam. I wore a stupid Danzig jacket every damn day of my senior year and obsessed with the group in only a way that a teenager can be and the band’s catalog was my high school soundtrack. Everyone knew old Joe as the Danzig guy, and even people I didn’t even know would feel inclined to mention it to me anytime they saw Danzig pop up anywhere. This debut album though holds up pretty well and is most famous for containing the single “Mother,” though the original video was rejected by MVP for its Satanic chicken sacrifice scene (not as cool as it sounds) and it only became a hit years later, in 1993, when a new video was cut to promote a new EP subsequently causing this old record to go platinum. Danzig still puts out music to this day, have released a new album just a year ago, though the band’s namesake is still best known for fronting The Misfits and they’ve done a few reunion shows the last couple of years. And yes, I still rock out to the guys today as I fly through my 30s. If all you’ve ever heard is “Mother” then check out the rest, it’s got some real head-bangers like “Soul on Fire” and “Evil Thing,” plus the previously mentioned “Twist of Cain.”

  2. Sleepaway Camp 2 I enjoyed more than the original. Sure, some problematic stuff from the first still remains (though the first Sleepaway Camp I argue is more transphobic) but the second film, I honestly enjoy better than the first because for one, Pamela Springsteen is very charismatic, she looked like she was having a blast and honestly, I enjoy how petty Angela is in the film. Springsteen definitely gave it a lot more personality and the kills are more satisfying than the first film. Plus, nobody was annoying unlike the first film where I wanted EVERYONE to die.

    Fun fact, Walter Gotell was in Sleepaway Camp 2 believe it or not. For those who don’t know (but I expect Diana to though), he’s the guy who played General Gogol in the Roger Moore era James Bond movies from The Spy Who Loved Me to A View to a Kill. He did appear one more time at the end of The Living Daylights however. He then appeared in low budget stuff afterwards-including a Nazi leader in Puppet Master III: Toulon’s Revenge and yes, he gets 86’d by one of the killer puppets.

    The film 54, yeah, this film was a victim of Harvey Weinstein’s interference and a few bad test audience screenings. For starters, people objected to the lead character’s bisexuality. Yes really. The director objected to the cuts but they cut it anyway against his will. Not only that, reshot much of his footage. His director’s cut was eventually released on Blu-Ray/DVD-cutting out the reshot footage. Everything in that director’s cut is 100 percent his as opposed to the theatrical cut. So what you may have seen, wasn’t the film the dude had in mind.

    Babylon A.D., yeah, this was another one. The director called out Fox for their constant interference (this was during the Tom Rothman reign of the studio) and he wasn’t even allowed to shoot a scene how it was scripted. Fly Me to the Moon, heard of it, didn’t bother. I just saw the DVD cover but wait, hold up; it went to theaters? And E.G. Marshall, I tend to remember him more as Upson Pratt in the cockroach segment of Creepshow.

  3. My Sassy girl is a remake of a Korean movie that was super popular in. It’s famous for a scene where the male lead is in pain as he trys wearing high heels.

  4. I generally hate pickles but fried pickles are the fucking best! Something about them being deep fried, served with some chiptole ranch/south western dipping sauce is so fucking good.

  5. Surprised Chris hasn’t seen Not Quite Hollywood, since it’s from the same director as Electric Boogaloo, but looking at Australia’s weird movies instead of Cannon Films. Totally worth checking out if you haven’t.

  6. I know E.G. Marshall from listening to old time radio podcasts. Although the show he hosted the “CBS Radio Mystery Theater” is relatively new (it ran from 1974-82).

  7. This was a weird episode for me because I don’t remember anything that was talked about in any of the three segments. None of the movies, TV, games, music, anything. Never thought that this would be the case. Maybe I should go back and try to figure out what the hell I was doing this week thirty, twenty, and ten years ago that left me so out of the loop.

  8. Wow. This is an odd week. I must agree that it is the oddest week in 30 20 10 history. Not that you guys did a bad job hosting, it was good, but just that the most notable piece of media to that came out thirty, twenty, or ten years ago for this episode was… Hot to Trot. In one since that is quite remarkable, but in an other sense it is not; You have done over 100 episodes of 302010 at this point, so statistically speaking whatever is the bottom 1% for a week with notable media should appear at least once, and I think this show is that 1%.
    Also, my favorite pickle is kosher, and doesn’t the title of Betrayed also give away the twist in the film?

  9. I remember seeing, “Betrayed,” in a class once! Senior year of High School I was apart of out of school for half the day and went to a trade school called, “BOCES,” for Film and Television production. If I had to guess why we watched this was because the teacher felt lazy one day and had this so we watched it for an assignment. Keep up the awesome work.

  10. The only thing I have to say about 54 is it popularized the dance cover of ‘If You Could Read My Mind’ By Stars of 54. As I was 12 at the time, I did not know this was a cover of a song by Gordon Litefoot. Fast forward a few years when I am working at a concert venue where Gordon is playing and he plays If You Could Read My Mind and I asked my friend, ‘why is he doing a cover of a Stars on 54 song?’

  11. I haven’t been commenting much because I can’t listen to podcasts at work anymore. The only time I have to do so is during my commute, so I often fall weeks behind and feel out of the loop by the time I catch up. But I did want to chime in on 1998 for a moment, specifically for a book.

    I’m not sure specifically when, but sometime in 1998 saw the publication of the book “Samurai Cat goes to Hell” by Mark E. Rogers, the sixth, and final book in the Samurai Cat series that began in 1984…. I’ll explain:

    The premise is thus: Tomokato is the greatest Samurai warrior in all of 16th Century Japan, fighting for his Lord Nobunaga. He is also a cat (human sized). One day, after defeating all of Nobunaga’s enemies, Tomokato is given a much deserved vacation, only to return and find that his Lord had been murdered while he was away. With his last dying breath, Nobunaga tells Tomokato who had murdered him. Turns out, his last dying breath lasted a couple hours, and there had been many, many enemies that had conspired to kill him. So with an enemies list in hand, Tomokato sets out to avenge his master.

    The books are essentially collections of connected short stories of Tomokato’s adventures that cross time and space, literally – and often with his nephew Shiro, who has a fetish for guns and might actually be psychotic. The stories start off somewhat simple, but later evolve into much broader adventures. The books are basically action parodies, often taking on famous literary and/or movie stories. There’s a riff on Salem’s Lot (Stephen King was a particular target of Rogers, who apparently was not a fan); a parody of the John Carter of Mars books that I didn’t get for decades; riffs on Star Wars, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Conan, The Temple of Doom – the latter of which features a recurring character named Wisconsin Platt, a spoof on Indiana Jones, but one who uses a wound up wet towel to dispatch his enemies, instead of a whip. Tomokato enlists the help of Santa Clause in order to take down Hitler (did I mention the Nazi dinosaurs?). There’s also a mash up of The Seven Samurai and The Wizard of Oz called “The Yellow Brick Road Warrior.”

    The writing, especially in the later books, is excellent. And the satire is truly savage in some cases: In the Temple of Doom parody, instead of removing the hearts, the cult leader removes the brains from his victims. One victim, having just had his brain plucked out, immediately comes up with the plot to Willow and is hustled off to Hollywood to write screenplays.

    There’s also The Hollywood Ninja – a ninja who wears black outfits in broad daylight and then wears bright white at night, assuring you can always see him.

    In the final book, Tomokato thinks he has conquered all of his enemies, only to find out that he has one more to dispatch: the Devil himself. The book, which is the only one of the series to be a full length novel telling one story, unfolds as a parody of Dante’s Inferno, as Tomokato must travel through Hell on his mission to kill Satan, and ends up confronting ALL of the enemies he had previously killed off. Oh, and the Devil often takes the form of MTV’s Kurt Loader, for some reason.

    It’s a great book series that I highly recommend. The first few books used to be quite rare, but I think they can be found for reasonable prices now. The first three books are oversized and lavishly illustrated by Rogers himself, and the artwork is stunning (Google it). The entire series goes: “The Adventures of Samurai Cat,” “More Adventures of Samurai Cat,” “Samurai Cat in the Real World,” “The Sword of Samurai Cat” (my favorite), “Samurai Cat goes to the Movies” and “Samurai Cat goes to Hell.”

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