Michael Jackson makes a movie, Kevin Smith and Pumbaa makes a fart – Oct 26 – Nov 1: Thirty Twenty Ten

Ed Norton deals with black and white, Lazytown says goodbye, Moonwalker is actually a movie, Sega’s best selling system debuts, Fallout goes 3D, a book with a title we cant write in this description, Seth Rogen makes a porno with Kevin Smith, Sony debuts Sackboy, The Great Pumpkin appears in multiple decades and Lion King gets its first sequel! All that and more this week on Thirty Twenty Ten, you’re podcast look back on the week that was 30, 20, and 10 years ago.


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11 thoughts on “Michael Jackson makes a movie, Kevin Smith and Pumbaa makes a fart – Oct 26 – Nov 1: Thirty Twenty Ten

  1. I know I’m the only person on Earth who cares this much about it, but 1965 by The Afghan Whigs is one of my favorite albums ever. It’s alternative rock with a heavy R&B influence, and the whole album is very dark and sexy. It was recorded in New Orleans and has a great New Orleans vibe also, with some amazing sax and trumpet parts.

    And other people will probably tell you this, but Bojack Horseman used Updike for the greatest updog joke in the history of television, one of my favorite things I’ve ever seen. It has something like a full minute of fast dialogue to set it up.

  2. Jan Levinson (no Gould!) from the Office was the lead in Dirty Dancing the TV show, it cracked me up when I looked up the intro a few months back.

    I’m in the extreme minority, but I get so excite when you bring up Raymond. Are condoms even packed like that anymore??? The coin shape??

    I checked out on (new) REM around the time Di did.

    Also, Poe?!?!

  3. Dead Set was NOT an anthology show, but it is QUITE Black Mirror-y. This is Charlie Brooker’s first scripted drama, at this point he was primarily known as a satirist and the host of a comedic TV review show called Screenwipe (check that out too, they’re all on YouTube). The plot of Dead Set is that while a season of Big Brother is airing, the apocalypse unfolds – with full-blown Romero-esque zombies. We see how people who are cut off from the world slowly realise that the outside world is ending. It’s definitely worth a look, a must-watch for horror fans and it has a very, VERY bleak Black Mirror-style ending.

  4. Poe is my favorite musician ever, so to hear her be brought up was a treat. Haunted is my favorite album of all time, one I listen to sometimes when I want something familiar to help me sleep. Chris was right however, that Poe is the Hello singer, with Hello being her first album and a single. Sarah was mostly right, but it’s Hey Pretty, not Hello Pretty. I would love it if you guys really need to mention Haunted’s release in 2020, along with her brother’s book, House of Leaves!

  5. I remember seeing Moonwalker in the cinema, but even 9 year old me saw it as a ridiculous vanity project. I cant remember what else was out at the same time, but o remember being pissed I wasnt seeing another movie for the very rare occasion I got to go see a movie not on tv.

    I’ve warmed up to it a lot more. It became a cult classic in my friend group. But some of the videos are actually really good. Smooth criminal in particular is excellent. My wife actually bought me a copy on Blu-ray not too long ago.

  6. Two thoughts on this week:

    1) I am exactly the age to have loved Mike and the Mechanics. I loved both the prog and pop versions of Genesis and basically everything any alumnus ever did. Looking back at it now, Living Years is certainly the Mechanics’ best album even though both guitarist/songwriter Mike Rutherford and vocalist Paul Carrack did better things outside the Mechanics.

    2) I remember being so fucking excited for John Carpenter’s Vampires and so sad when I saw it. At that point, I loved Carpenter, Woods and actor/wrestler Terry Funk (who was supposed to be a major villain but ended up downgraded) so getting a free preview ticket felt like hitting g the lottery. Then j saw the movie and had to apologize to the friends I went with.

  7. Bear: 1988. I feel like this is one of the first kid’s films I realized I didn’t want to see. I watched garbage all the time (Hello He-Man!) but I think that even at ten I realized that I needed more stimulation than a non-talking bear film was likely to provide.

    FEDS: This film is part of a trend that I still don’t understand: Movies totally made for adults that I never the less watched a ton of times. Listening to the trailer you all played I guarantee that ten year old me did not get a single one of the double entendre in the entire film, and yet the pizza eating contest in the film is seared (SEARED!) in my memory. The power of VHS I guess.

    I actually have a very vague memory of my sister being super excited to watch the Dirty Dancing TV series and then being disappointed.
    Tracy Ulman Show: I feel like when you hear Tracy say, “I don’t have anything to do with the cartoon” and then “that horrible little boy” you’re getting a peek behind the made-for-tv-fluff-piece-mask and can hear just how much she actually dislikes the Simpsons.

    Say it loud: I’m listening to every single Billboard top 100 song from 1946 to today (currently at 1999, which has less partying than I was promised) and I’m making a real concerted effort to _listen_ to every single song, even the ones I’ve heard a thousand times to really try to understand them. And despite having listened to this song many many times over the last 30 years, and listening to it recently as part of an experiment to understand every pop song, I never realized it was about saying goodbye to a father until you stated it, at which point it became obvious. I wonder what percentage of songs that we “know” are also songs that we actually understand?

    1998: The Sonny Bono Copyright Act actually makes for interesting constitutional law. Article I Section 8. Clause 8 of the constitution states, [The Congress shall have power] “To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.” The various Disney Copyright Extensions have been challenged numerous times, but each time it is pointed out that extending the copyright for another couple of decades over the previous time is still “securing for limited times” despite the fact that they do so again and again and again. So as long as they never try for “forever” then it’s constitutionally sound. And if any Disney executives are reading this I’d like to point out that, “until the last proton in the universe decays and the final heat death of the universe has finished” still counts as “securing for limited times.” My fee for Disney using this information is $100,000 please.

    Re: Request for help obtaining clips. Hey Chris – I can legit help you find stuff for 30 20 10. I’m super skilled at it and think I could be of service. Hit me up and lets talk.

    The thing I remember most about John Glenn going back into space was a usenet group I was part of (rec.arts.tv.mst3k.misc) which really wanted everyone to put ton monkey masks when they greeted him, making him think that we maniacs had blown it up. Or making it so that he wondered why everyone was in a monkey mask.

    Vampires: This is one of those films where I really liked the idea (The Catholic Church gives “get out of hell free” cards to those who bust Vampires, allowing them to kick ass for lord but still part hard) but found the execution to be pretty weak. I still do quote teak line, though.

    Chris regarding adoption, just some quick numbers. There are roughly 3.8 million US births per year and there are around 150 thousand US adoptions per year. In rough numbers this means that 1 out of every 25 kids is going to be adopted, which makes it rare but not beyond an eye-blink or two rare. Basically one kid in any class room will be an adopted kid, on average.

    As to why young people go to theaters and 30-40-somethings don’t, “We’re tired” loved that line. It’s funny because it’s true.

    Zach And Marie Make a Porno. This may be the last Kevin Smith film I was actually excited to go see. I was a huge fan from the Mallrats days and when I heard he was trying to break out, I was excited to see what he could do. And . . . .it was OK. It wasn’t bad, but it was just OK and sometimes that can be worse because if it’s really bad maybe the the director was trying for a great prize that was just out of his grasp. But if it’s just OK? Where do you go from there? On a billion lecture circuits, I guess.

    LazyTown I 100% only know about this from the ” You are a Pirate” and ” Little Jon” meme songs.

    Command and Conquer Red Alert 3: I bought this in some humble bundle over nostalgia for Red Alert 1 with the sole intention of watching its cheesy FMV scenes. Would it shock you that Steam tells me I have played exactly 0 minutes of it?

    Fallout 3: You know the scene in Fallout 3 where you emerge from the Vault? That is one of my most memorable gaming memories of all time, but only because I was playing it on the Oculus Rift 1.0. That was the beta version with the screen door effect but it was still unbelievably amazing to have it look like I was walking around a Vault, and then emerge, in VR, into an irradiated wasteland. I think I’ll remember that experience for the rest of my life.

  8. So, way back in February 2008, Kevin Smith filmed “Zack & Miri” in and around Pittsburgh. And my buddy Clint and I got to be extras. It was honestly one of the coolest days of my life! I’m a film junkie and aspiring filmmaker, so being able to watch the behind the scenes action –in person– is like crack to me.

    If no one has been an extra in a film or televison project before, it’s kinda like being cattle. Extras wranglers herd the crowd of folks who wander around in the backgrounds of scenes exactly like cattle. Go here, move there, stay in this area, and wait. Looootsa waiting. Hollywood’s unofficial motto is “Hurry Up and Wait.”

    Me? I didn’t care. I loved it. And being on the set of one of the filmmakers who helped give me a love of film? Heaven.

    I managed to get away from the Extras Pen so I could use the bathroom (the scene being filmed was shot at, like, eight at night, and I hadn’t gone since that morning), and on the way back, I got to check out Video Village (where the director and director of photography can check lighting, camera angles, etc, on the fly). While there, a skinny, bearded guy stepped up next to me and introduced himself. It was Scott Mosier, Kevin Smith’s producer and podcast partner, and Willam/Snowball from “Clerks.” Mosier was very laid back and chill, was genuinely interested in how I was doing, and actually thanked me for helping out on the film. I thanked him profusely for just the opportunity to be on set!

    Time comes, and the wranglers call me to join in the next shot. It’s the scene where Zack and his pal (played by Seth Rogen and Jeff Anderson) sign up for college courses to get a student discount on renting film equipment. There’s back and forth between Rogen and Anderson, a lot of ad libbing. My job was to walk past behind them, engrossed in a newspaper, and nearly run into another extra, playing a student. We run the scene several times, Kevin Smith calls cut, and we wrap. The wranglers herd us back into the Extras Pen to gather our belongings, do a head count, and herd us out of the building.

    On the way out, I spot Smith and Mosier hanging out in front of the building, smoking and chatting about the scene. I’ve always wanted to meet Smith, and I figure this might be my only shot, so I sidestep out of line and introduce myself to him. Smith is all smiles, very exuberant, completely open and friendly. He actually commented on my acting bit, said he really dug it. I thanked him for everything, and for helping inspire me to want to go into filmmaking. Immediately, he launches into his self-deprecation bit: “Me? An idol? Heh, dude, there are so many more talented filmmakers than ME, man!” I thank him again and beat feet, because I heard the wranger doing another head count, and didn’t want to get in trouble.

    Months later, not only is there a release date for “Zack and Miri,” but there’s going to be a special premiere here in Pittsburgh. I snap up tickets for it, and attend with my then-girlfriend. The movie is a ton of fun, but a bit of a bummer, as the scene I was in was trimmed from the final cut. When I got the DVD that winter, I found out not only was the scene cut, but the takes I was in weren’t used.

    Honestly, I didn’t mind. I have the memories of that awesome day in my heart to carry with me.

  9. The best thing to come out of Moonwalker was the awesome chiptune soundtrack from the video game, introduced to me by an episode of Retronauts and occasionally appearing in the background of episodes of VGA.

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