Tarzan is in Disney’s heart, Jack Black Goes Back in Time, and Does Busting Feel that Good the Second Time Around: Thirty Twenty Ten – Jun 14-20

Counter-Strike debuts… slowly, Harry Potter and the First Sequel, Disney produces its most modern public domain animation adaption in decades, Married with Children loses an episode, Stephen King lives his on fiction, Cher yearns for time travel, Harold Ramis makes an unfunny comedy (no, not that one, and the Ghostbusters get back together… but at what cost?! All that and more this week on Thirty Twenty Ten, your weekly look back on the week that was 30, 20, and 10 years ago.


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7 thoughts on “Tarzan is in Disney’s heart, Jack Black Goes Back in Time, and Does Busting Feel that Good the Second Time Around: Thirty Twenty Ten – Jun 14-20

  1. The D.O.C., you could argue was the prototype for Snoop Dogg. He was one of Dre’s first proteges outside of NWA. His debut, No One Can Do It Better is considered a classic. He released a couple vids for it, the most well know being It’s Funky Enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPbeIXZpD4, Unfortunately he was in a terrible car accident in 89, a few months after his debut dropped which more or less ruined his vocal cords, halting his solo career. His once distinct voice was no more, replaced by a raspier one. He transitioned fully into ghostwriting, writing for NWA. Once Snoop was discovered, DOC helped coach Snoop into constructing songs, helping him become the artist he is today.

  2. I’m going to stand up for Pirates of Silicon Valley. It actually has a decent amount of style and knowing when to break the fourth wall, Anthony Michael Hall is really good as Gates. But the standout in his scenes is a John DiMaggio, he of Futurama and a ton of other voice work, as Steve Ballmer. He steals he movie, especially when he steps out of the scene at the infamous meeting where Microsoft licensed MS- DOS to IBM. It’s worth checking out.

  3. I’d Rather Be Listening to Grammy-Award Winning 1999 Hit Smooth By Santana Feat. Rob Thomas of Matchbox Twenty

    Stephen King on his accident:
    “On June 19th, 1999 I got hit by a van while taking a walk. As I lay unconscious in the hospital, the docs debated amputating my right leg and decided it could stay, on a trial basis. I got better. Every day of the 20 years since has been a gift.”

    also, if pro-wrestling is just soap opera for boys, Real Housewives is pro wrestling for moms.

  4. Ghostbusters II, I’d say looking back it’s okay. Some fun gags like Bill Murray insulting a toaster but it does feel like more of the same I agree.

    Though my hot take, the 2016 women lead Ghostbusters reboot is better than the original. I imagine Chris will want to crucify me but I do. I found it funnier, ghosts look unique and I love the characters and the choice of actors to play them. Plus, the Ghostbusters were actually scientists this time, not fucking capitalists. Plus, Holtzmann built more awesome tech.

    Tarzan, I think it’s safe to assume that it’s the version of the story people think more. I was introduced to it via making of promos that were a two parter on VHS tapes for Mulan and A Bug’s Life. I was enthralled by the visuals and music that I wanted to see immediately. So finally it came to theaters the very summer of 1999 and I loved it, it was my introduction to Brian Blessed and even watched the animated series. And I don’t care what Trey Parker and Matt Stone say, the songs by Phil Collins are awesome! Strangers Like Me being my personal favorite. So, yeah, I’d say it’s still worth the watch.

  5. The biggest problem with Ghostbusters 2 was that didn’t want to be Ghostbusters 2. It desperately and painfully wanted to be Ghostbusters 1. And this crippled the film. People will be willing to believe that a 20 story high Stay Puff Marshmallow Man walked down New York City but people will not be willing to believe that five years after such a thing happened the entire city just kind of forgets about it and the very idea of the supernatural is once again laughable. The screenwriters couldn’t come up with any other interesting ideas for a sequel other than having the Ghostbusters build a Ghostbusting team from the bottom up, which is rather odd to people of my generation who grew up on the Real Ghostbusters. And I do think there is a real generational divide for Ghostbusters. For people of my Dad’s generation, the generation that wrote and stared in Ghostbusters, it’s just one of those funny 80’s films. To him, Caddyschack doesn’t have a mythos. Stripes doesn’t have a mythos. And Ghostbusters doesn’t have a mythos. They are all just lumped together under the funny films genre. And my suspicion is that the stars and writers of Ghostbusters II felt the same way; they didn’t see it as a Universe for world building but as a situation comedy designed to set up jokes. But to people of my generation, Ghostbusters most assuredly did have a mythos, it’s just that the Ghostbusters mythos that we most cared about didn’t exist outside of the Real Ghostbusters cartoon show, because that was where the vast majority of the hours we spent watching Ghostbusters came from. Even if we re-watched the original film ten times, and only watched every episode of The Real Ghost busters once, the total view time of The Real Ghostbusters would be longer. I feel like this is a pretty unique situation for Ghostbusters as I’m not sure there’s ever been an IP that originated outside of animation that has ever had its fan base built up by a cartoon show as much as was the case for Ghostbusters.
    Human memory is utterly fallible and should not be trusted. My first big break up happened in the Spring of ’98. MP3’s were taking off at that time so I created a master playlist of sad mopey break up songs and until this very moment I would have bet a ton of money that Everything You Want by Vertical Horizon was on that playlist, but nope! The timeline doesn’t work at all. Ever have an instance of thinking some piece of media coincided with some event in your life only to learn that such a thing was impossible?
    I was a sometimes reader of a Stephen King USENET group in 1999 and learned that he got hit by a van when that group EXPLODED! My email inbox was just flooded with posts to a level I had never seen before. There was definitely some amount of sympathy for him as a person but the vast bulk of it was people saying, “WHAT ABOUT THE DARK TOWER SERIES???!!!” The goulishness of this was pointed out to numerous people, but it really spoke to me about what his fame really amounted to, he wasn’t really a person lying in a hospital bed in immense pain to most of his fans. He was a gumball machine. The fans put their money into the machine and then they got a gumball/novel at a regular interval. And when they heard the gumball machine got hit their overwhelming concern was that they didn’t want the gumball machine to stop giving out gumballs. In the present day I see this same emotion expressed towards George RR Martin finishing the Song of Ice and Fire and while I do understand the emotions involved I also try to keep them in check because of the ghoulishness I saw 20 years ago.
    The Little Mermaid. Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin. And then the masterpiece that was The Lion King made me a super huge Disney fan boy. Then came Pocahontas (beautiful!), then Hunchback (Eh… ) Hercules (OK, they are trying something new…) and Mulan (I’m not caring about these characters…) but it was Tarzan that solidified that the streak was truly over for me. The songs did nothing for me and I don’t think I’ve seen it in 20 years.
    Pirates of Silicon Valley holds up! It was written at a fascinating time when Steve Jobs was in Bill Gates shadow (something they make abundantly clear at the end) and the sets while a little cheap looking still bring back the whirlwind days of the computer revolution.
    If The Wild Bunch was set during WWI then is it really a Western? I feel like the genre has to take place in a pretty narrow time window of after the Civil War and before 1890 when the frontier was declared closed.
    I too have an unlimited data plan! I’ve held onto it with dear life through the 2000’s, the 2010’s, and god willing and the creek don’t rise the 2020’s. I’ve had to call and talk to various operators over various issues and every time they’ve said, “Let me just pull up your data usage for the year …” the next words out of their mouth have always without exception been some variant on “That can’t be right…..” Anyone else still grandfathered in?

    Sounds like Year 1 is an unfunny mess. Other than Life of Brian and History of the World Part I, have there been any good Historical Comedies?
    Ghostbusters 3 the Game. When talking about how ugly Ghostbusters 1 is, I think it’s crucial to remember that New York of the time did NOT have the reputation of New York today. Off the top of my head I can name a half dozen films from around that time that make New York look even worse than Ghostbusters 1 made it look, but none that did the reverse. Hive Mind! Were there any big films from the time (call it 1975-1990 ) that glamorized New York?

  6. Everything you Want is a great song! Why on Earth do you not like it?!

    Tarzan is great! It’s my brother’s favorite Disney movie. ALL the songs are good. “You’ll be in my Heart” is a beautiful, touching song from a mother to her son. “Son of Man” and “Two Worlds” are epic. The latter of which always gives me shivers when I remember the opening montage of both families starting their new lives before abruptly coming to an end. It’s so well done! “Strangers Like Me” is good too. “Trashin’ the Camp” is a fun banger. I still remember the Disney Movie Surfers series of Behind The Scenes interstitials on Disney Channel where they talked about getting N*Sync to do that song with Phil Collins. It was a great time!

    Looking forward to 2002 when you talk about my whole family’s favorite Disney movie, Lilo and Stitch. That movie holds a special place in our hearts.

    Oh man, Year One. I remember the trailers for this movie looking awful. This is also the time when I used to watch the YouTuber Fred (which I now regret) and he did an obviously paid promotion for the movie where he made a ton of really lame “You’re so year one…” jokes that felt completely forced. Is that phrase even a thing or was that just marketing trying to make it a thing? (Insert Mean Girls “fetch” reference here.)

  7. I’m catching up on these way late, but I’ll step in to defend Ghostbusters II to a point. I’m one of those Ghostbusters superfans. I have a fully functional screen accurate proton pack hanging on my basement wall as the centerpiece of a Ghostbusters collection. I’m part of a fan group that does charity work in my city dressed as Ghostbusters. I’ve loved it since I first realized what it was in the late ’80s.

    I was born in ’84 so I missed the first wave of Ghostbusters mania, but I was definitely there for the second wave of Real Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II. This is one of the first movies that I remember being an event movie with merchandising tie-ins and everything. It felt like a big deal. I loved the movie at the time seeing it in the theaters, but I was a kid and I’d love anything Ghostbusters.

    Still, over the years GBII has stuck with me. My wife and I quote this movie at each other way more than the first GB, to the point that a day hasn’t gone by in our marriage without one of us quoting something, usually a Peter MacNicol line. Though when I’m out with the costume group GB1 quotes are definitely what get tossed at us the most.

    I also recognize that there are some clunky elements. It’s a trap the GBII people fell into, and something I’ve seen in innumerable fan films in the years since. Everyone wants to show off the special effects, whether that’s ILM or some dudes showing off the new filter they just got in AfterEffects, and everyone forgets that the thing that made the original GB stand out was what you said: the moments they were standing on the steps doing improv at each other. It also annoys me when we have a Ghostbusters sequel that hinges on the idea that nobody believes in ghosts when there was a GIANT MARSHMALLOW MAN KAIJU THAT WENT FOR A STROLL DOWN CENTRAL PARK WEST.

    I feel like GBII is a perfectly okay late ’80s special effects comedy with some great shining moments that suffers because it was the belated followup to one of the most beloved comedies ever created. There’s no following up lightning in a bottle like that and doing better than “this was okay.”

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