Bruce Willis is Dead, Einstein Invents Beer, and Iron Giant Rules: Thirty Twenty Ten – Aug 2-8

SomeBODY once told me you’re really gonna like this episode! We’ve got a forgotten superhero movie with more stars than the original Avengers, the last great traditionally animated film, an adaptation of a blog, the world falls in love with M Night Shyamalan and Haley Joel Osment, and a curious punchline from Down Under that deserved a revisiting. All that and more this week on Thirty Twenty Ten, your weekly look back on the week that was 30, 20, and 10 years ago.


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13 thoughts on “Bruce Willis is Dead, Einstein Invents Beer, and Iron Giant Rules: Thirty Twenty Ten – Aug 2-8

  1. Mystery Men is alright, you guys are right it doesmt come close to its potiential but its not as bad as you think. I saw it for the first time last year. Its fine

  2. Here’s where I argue for 300 Days of Summer in how that you see exactly two scenes with a real Summer: the part scene where you see reality vs. fantasy, and their end conversation. Everything else is Joe’s projection of her, with all his projections and misconceptions, and I think the movie is very good at showing him growing out of that idiocy. I have a lot of affection for the movie.

    Also, Zooey Deschanel’s band, She & Him, is a really damn good cover band.

    1. Agreed! Do you ever remember a relationship in strictly chronological order? I think most of the time, unless I’m structurally writing about an experience, my mind jumps around all over the place. It could start at the end, hop back to a beginning, hop to the middle, and then realize that the beginning it thought was the beginning actually had an earlier beginning. And seeing Tom going through that same thing as he came to grips that someone may want to be with him in the now, but not forever was fascinating to me to watch.

  3. Ah The Iron Giant. I managed to see it opening weekend. Basically when I was a kid, 8 years old to be specific, I saw a TV spot that had Rock You Like a Hurricane. I know, the marketing gave a very wrong impression of the film and it was very obvious to get boys into the film. What it did was present the film as a buddy comedy action film for kids. They even took the rock scene out of context, at least when the kid Hogarth and the Giant said rock and it had most of the first sequence between Hogarth and the Giant at the electrical plant and had Vin Diesel’s voice unmodulated so I heard his natural voice. But it worked on 8 year old me enough to see it opening weekend. It literally presented me with the promise of a giant robot doing stuff. And unknown to my younger self it did that but also something better.

    And just like that, I fell in love with the film. I was a bit obsessed and I even owned the VHS and action figure. I just loved it as a kid and love it as an adult thankfully. I even recited dialogue from the film to myself but got in trouble a bit when I uttered the word hell since somebody else said it. And I was even of the 24 hour marathons on Cartoon Network around Thanksgiving.

    I’d say it has a lot of heart and a powerful theme about choice as well as the theme of xenophobia and paranoia of the 50s. It felt very honest about the decade.

    I don’t know if you any of you know this but there was a re release in 2016 and they actually included two deleted scenes that they did finally animate as well as a subtle change as instead of a commercial on the TV, it’s a Disney show promoting Tomorrowland. One being the origin where it implied the giant was from a line of war machine aliens and their planet blew up but the one giant got sent away which I assume was meant to destroy a planet. Wow.

    Point is though, great movie! Always is.

    The Sixth Sense, oh boy! This time this wasn’t my idea. It was my sister’s. The entire family went as a result and well it certainly got me as a kid in regards to how effective it was. It’s been years since I’ve seen it but I intend to for my Horror movie marathon this year.

    However I have seen a film that was seen as a bit of a competitor being Stir of Echoes. Which was based on a Richard Matheson but it had the unfortunate timing of being released the same time as The Sixth Sense. Which, pity. It’s actually pretty good.

    Though The Sixth Sense did start a streak of Toni Collette in Horror films and for the better with this, the Fright Night remake, Krampus, Hereditary, Velvet Buzzsaw and the upcoming Guillermo del Toro film Nightmare Alley. She’s always awesome and seems to be a good luck charm for Horror films.

    Still shock you guys haven’t found out about M. Night Shyamalan writing She’s All That since that was written before he hit it big the same year. I used to bash the guy but I cooled off and I liked The Visit, Split and Glass. I’d say he’s doing fine but in fairness with After Earth, that was a vanity project. Nobody could have made that work.

    1. A friend of mine worked on the deleted scene segment featuring the big line of robots you mentioned. He spoke about working with Brad Bird and the team at an animation festival hosted here a few months ago.

  4. One more thing to Diana. Sixth Sense is a Horror movie! It can have Thriller and mystery elements yes but it’s a Horror movie!

  5. I watched the American and Japanese versions of Hachiko around the same time and my main take away of the differences; the Japanese one unexpectedly showed the birth of Hachiko. Took me by surprise.

    I saw 500 Days of Summer in the cinema at a local shopping centre after a bad interview so I was sat there in a suit on like a Tuesday or something. I enjoyed the film at the time and occasionally want to watch it again. The soundtrack is good, although it’s becoming more and more difficult to listen to The Smiths.

  6. I can remember seeing the ads for Yahoo Serious in Young Einstein and thinking that it looked super funny and that I really wanted to see it. I never did though, can’t remember why, and I never picked it up at the video store for some other reason lost to time, and given how bad it sounds it looks like I didn’t miss a damn thing. What film, that you really wanted to see but never did, are you most lucky for having missed out on?
    I’m going to go to bat for Parenthood in a big way as while I didn’t like it when it came out when I was a kid, seeing it after becoming a parent was a completely different experience. My wife and I watched it as two fairly new-ish parents and found it funny, heartwarming, and very true to life. We connected with the characters and sympathized with their problems and there are lines from the film that my wife and constantly quote to each other (“By the third kid you let them juggle knives!”). And I don’t know what you’re talking about having seen this all before again and again, unless you are talking about off the big screen, because I think the struggles of parenting are rarely made into major Hollywood films. A lifetime made-for-tv-movie? Sure. But a major film with major stars where the central conflict is parenthood? When’s the last time that happened?
    Batdance is #1 video. I had completely forgotten about the Vicki Vales in this video but young JR always waited for that part.
    “Hosts need commercial free Hulu” I’d be happy to provide all the hosts with commercial free Hulu (and Disney Plus when it comes out ) in exchange for a favor. DM me for more details.
    Mystery Men. Soon after watching this I attended my very first meeting of people off the internet. I was part of a UseNet group called I posted there almost every day, I talked with members about the show, about pop culture in general, about weird stuff we saw on the internet, and about their lives. Over time we grew to actually know each other as people, as much as you can over the internet anyways, and we decided to get together at a member’s house to hang out together. Meeting people off the internet is no big thang in 2019 but in 1999 my mother was worried to death and even my friends thought it was super weird and at least quasi-dangerous to go hang out over a long weekend with a bunch of “People From the Internet!” But I used a big chunk of the money I saved up working at Safeway and flew half way across the country to do just that and it was SUCH a blast. Everyone was super cool and super fun and we all got along great. And there was this one guy, who I SWORE looked EXACTLY like William H. Macey as the Shoveler in Mystery Men. I would not shut up about it and mentioned it so much that eventually I got him to hold up a picture to immortalize how much they looked alike, and looking back with 20 years of hindsight …. what the hell was I thinking???? The dude looks NOTHING like William Macy in Mystery Men. Was I insane? What was wrong with me? What type of weirdo would insist on something like that with someone he just met off a pop culture discussion group he hangs out on? Anyways, anyone want to have a Laserino Meet Up in Greensboro, NC?
    Iron Giant. I never heard about this when it came out, never it knew it existed until I fell completely in love with The Incredibles and learned about Brad Bird. Once started tracking down his old work I watched this and it’s a pure masterpiece. I can’t think of a single thing that this film does “wrong” which makes me wonder why it was a flop on screen. Any theories for why this film wasn’t a success at the box office?
    What traditional animated films have been remastered in 4K? My quick Google search didn’t show anything?
    The Sixth Sense. I don’t know how I did it, but I went at least two years without having this ending spoiled for me. I heard a vague word about the film here, some comment about how good it was there, but in 2001 when I was at a friends house and pulled out the DVD and said, “Is this any good?” My puzzled friend: “You mean you’ve never seen it?” Me: “Nope.” Friend, “What do you know about it?” Me: “Not much. I just heard it was good.” Friend, “WE ARE WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW!!!” So he popped in the DVD and when Bruce Willis gets hot in the stomach and then appears fine in the next scene I blurted out, “Come on! A gun shot like that should have killed him!” And I will forever be grateful for my friend keeping a straight face and saying, “Hey, that’s Hollywood man.” I then watched the rest of the film in complete and utter unsuspecting ignorance until the very end when I was blown away and my friend freaked out that he got to see me be blown away by a surprise that every one else in his circle had known for years. When you saw the Sixth Sense did you know about the ending or was it a surprise for you?
    The Last Episode of MST3K. I’m not sure any TV show has ever meant as much to me as this cow-town puppet show did and when it was time for it to end I was so happy that they gave it an actual ending of having Mike and the bots going back to Earth and watching the very first movie they saw but I have to disagree that it’s an eternal loop type deal. Rather, Mike and the Bots are choosing to watch something they were previously forced to watch and I think that the writers were trying to say that happiness is where you find it.
    Let’s get an “I am Sparatcus” thing going down here. Ahem, … I like Smashmouth’s All Star! Look up Oral History of the song.
    GI JOE – The Rise of Cobra. I swore the only way I would ever watch this would be if Rifftrax came out with a commentary track to it. They’ve yet to do so, so my vow remains strong. What film do you want Rifftrax to do the most?
    Death of John Hughes. I don’t know much about the man, but he made two films that I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to recall beat for beat when I’m in my 80’s. As far as I can tell the only biography about him was written in 2015 and all of his family as well as some of his closest friends refused to be interviewed which to me means that book probably isn’t worth reading. Recently Moly Ringwald, his muse in many ways, wrote a long form article about him which to me was both fascinating and left me wanting to know more about the man. But we only get one shot to say whatever we have to say about ourselves before the curtain closes, and his early death makes me think that we’ll probably never really know who he was as a person.

  7. Sorry, just that certain films not being referred to as Horror films when they are is a pet peeve of mine.

    That being said, I’m surprised you didn’t discuss the 98 Avengers unless I missed that.

  8. Huh. I’m surprised at the withering disdain toward Parenthood. Granted, it’s been MANY years since I’ve seen it, but I had fond memories of the film.
    I will say that Diana’s sarcastic “no one’s EVER made a statement on parenting” comment seems harsh, since you can more or less do that with every movie. But I’m now curious whether this flick holds up at all, or if I’m up for disappointment.

  9. The Megan Wants a Millionaire murder was a big deal in my neck of the woods; I remember it well. However I don’t recall anyone wondering if Jasmine Fiore’s death was a suicide, chiefly because she was brutally beaten and crushed inside a suitcase then ditched in a dumpster in an alley in LA.
    Her teeth and fingers had been removed to make identifying her difficult. The only way police were able to identify her was from the serial numbers on her breast implants.
    This all happened down in California, and some cursory news of the murders tricked through to me, but it all came to a head when the fugitive himself made his way up the coast and crossed the border illegally in the tiny American exclave town where our summer cabin is located.

    A lot of people don’t know about Point Roberts, Washington but it makes the lists of American Geographical oddities every couple years. It’s a piece of America that is surrounded on three sides by water and one side by Canada. So Americans have to go through Canada to reach Point Roberts or come by boat. School kids above grade 4 are taken on a bus through the border into Canada, drive 30 minutes to the closest border crossing and go through customs again. Same on the way home.
    The Point is full of Canadians (like me) in the summer months who have relaxing small cabins there. In the winter months the place is nearly a ghost town. Because of it’s isolation and difficulties Americans face in living there (doctor visits, bigger grocery trips, lack of quality jobs) it has remained fairly untouched (not built up) and quite 1950’s. People say hi to each other and actually have conversations, plus there’s not a McDonald’s or any chain restaurants to be seen. It’s also been able to keep it’s beautiful beaches and lovely scenery.

    I say all this to set the scene for this day in August, 10 years ago. I remember I was in the cabin watching the Canadian news and at this point I already knew for a day or two that this fugitive Ryan Jenkins had been on the run and possibly heading for Canada. The news anchor threw to the reporter who was doing a live hit on location. I suddenly recognized the border in the background! It was our little Point Roberts’ border! What the hell?! Nothing ever happens here!

    The reporter went on to detail that they believed Ryan had taken his boat from the marina in Blaine, Washington (across Boundary Bay) to the Point Roberts Marina, where he talked to the marina owner for a bit and then left on foot and walked the roughly 2.5 miles to the northwest corner of the Point where he crossed at a ridiculously unpatrolled section of the border.
    This dude is straddling it:×600.jpg

    Then again most sections of the border at Point Roberts are super easy to cross. Some Canadians even have gates built into their back fence that lead into America. But please, NO WALL! We like it the way it is thank you very much.

    Getting back to it, the reporter said they didn’t know for certain where the fugitive was but he was likely in Canada.
    Well me in my 20 year old brain decided to test that theory so I biked up and around the forested areas of Point Roberts where this guy was said to have been, juuuust in case he was still there hiding in the trees. I didn’t have a plan what I would do if I spotted him, ride away I guess?
    But of course I didn’t spot him, but I tell you my heart was pumping on that ride!

    It was all just such a strange thing to happen to the quiet, family friendly community.
    Within a couple days it was all over when they found him hanging from his belt in a motel in Hope, BC.

    It’s really just a sad story the reality of it, but the excitement and buzz it brought me and the community that summer in that tiny unique place, I’ll never forget!

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