Freddy Kruger is Having a Baby, Steve Martin Makes a Movie with Eddie Murphy and We Must Protect Our Border From Invading Prawns: Thirty Twenty Ten – Aug 9-15

Steve Martin’s last good film?! Eddie Murphy plays a great nerd/Scientologist, District 9 holds up great a decade later, it’s the beginning of the end for Nightmare on Elm Street, James Cameron and Hayao Miyazaki venture under the sea, and Rachel McAdam’s husband has become unstuck in time! All that and more this week on Thirty Twenty Ten, your weekly look back on the week that was 30, 20, and 10 years ago.

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8 thoughts on “Freddy Kruger is Having a Baby, Steve Martin Makes a Movie with Eddie Murphy and We Must Protect Our Border From Invading Prawns: Thirty Twenty Ten – Aug 9-15

  1. Ugh…Dream Child. Not the worst Nightmare, but other than a few of the deaths, unremarkable. The timeline inconsistency annoys me the most. From Alice’s new friends not believing in Freddy (how in the hell don’t they? He literally killed kids the year prior), or how Westin Hills went from a modernish active mental facility (at least 2 years prior) to something run down, ancient. Jacob the creepy kid wasn’t too bad though, all things considered.

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    The Billy Crystal Russia special being such a big deal only makes sense when you remember how closed off the Soviet Union was. Given the spread of the internet North Korea is the only contemporary country that is as closed off as the USSR was and I think it would be a super big deal if John Mulaney did a show in Pyongyang. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43k2uYYw8QA

    Nightmare on Elm Street 5: Dream Child. Was this film the height of Freddy’s popularity? NOT that it was the best, but its predecessor was the highest grossing of all the mainstream Nightmare films, so even though 5 unperformed was this the film when he was hyped up the most and in the public conscious the most? Like, for example was it this movie that gave us the Freddy 1 900 number? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnfXxOVwYno

    I can distinctly remember when The Abysss came out because soon after I saw commercials for it I began using, “You never backed down from anything in your life!” on my friends, all of which had backed down many many times because we were all a bunch of 11 year olds and of _course_ we backed down all the time. But 11-year old JR thought it was a super cool line so he used it hoping it would make him cool. Spoiler alert: It did not. Oddly enough, I’ve yet to see the film. Have any of you ever repeatedly quoted a line from a film you’ve never watched?

    Oh, and it’s not fair at all, and I love him as a filmmaker, but I can’t think of James Cameron without thinking of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hddYB-FbD5M
    Richard Mark’s “Right here waiting for you” definitely has a spot in any cheesy wedding playlist. What are other good cheesy wedding songs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_E2EHVxNAE

    My first trip to Asia (which I did by myself at the age of 21 using money I saved up working at Safeway) was a very enjoyable time for me and it’s a great memory I’m glad I have but I went there soon after Brokedown Palace and Return to Paradise came out and those two films made a huge impression on me despite the fact that I never saw either of them! All I saw was the trailers but that was enough that when I went the whole time in the back of my head was this little voice saying, “You better not do anything too crazy…. You better watch out for people slipping large amounts of highly valuable drugs into your bags without your knowledge….” Needless to say nothing bad happened but it’s weird how stuff we never even watched can plant seeds.

  3. The main reason you haven’t seen a Seinfeld stamp (and won’t for probably a while) is because the people featured on USPS stamps have to be dead. And by “people” I mean “actual real people”, Big Bird and Homer Simpson have been on stamps and thankfully Carroll Spinney and Dan Castellaneta are still with us. It sucks that we can’t honor folks with stamps while they’re still alive, but also think about all the potential milkshake duck stamps we’ve dodged.

    With love,
    The Only Millennial (barely, I’m 32) With A Stamp Collection

  4. Good Moleman to you,

    I absolutely love District 9. Outside of the societal aspects you all talked about, the action is amazing, the characters are fantastic, acting superb, the way it starts out as a documentary. How it inserts longer and longer scenes not a part of the documentary until you realize you’re just watching the real events, and didnt notice the transition. Wikus’ (the main character) incredibly human, yet incredibly stupid choice near the end (SPOILERS: when he knocks put Christopher Johnson and steals the ship).

    I just adore almost everything about this film, and one of my saddest moments in a theatre came when I was seeing it for the second time, and a group of people walked out when Wikus was doing the experiments. No guys, stay! It’s really amazing! ..Aww…

  5. Once again, with some edits, I’ll post what I said in your Elm Street Nightmares podcast.

    “I think it’s unfair Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child gets a lot of flack because I don’t think it’s a right to life message. It’s more about a woman’s choice to keep her baby or not. I do have to admire the film even after so many years since first watching it so like Chris and Louis, I have fun baggage with this. But first, I will say, yes I understand the problematic aspects.

    first time I noticed this film was on Showtime back in 2003 but didn’t finish the rest due to my bedtime imposed on me. I did eventually watch all of it however on the same channel and I was fascinated by what I saw from the death scenes to the look of the film. It used to be my favorite installment from the franchise. I did also rent the Unrated VHS and the deaths are even better. I mean, I like the death scenes all the same but the ultimate result was great. It’s just too bad the DVD and Blu-Ray couldn’t restore them. I’d hope one day they’ll get restored like maybe WB/New Line would give Shout Factory the okay to do a Scream Factory release with the cut stuff back in. Then again, the MPAA are run by hypocrites. They target indie films and give free passes to the studio stuff even back then. They especially had a real hard on hate for Horror films in those days. You should hear the stories about submitting Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III to the MPAA.

    But anyway, the original is my most favorite bar none but 5 I do like. I admire what it was trying to do and it has a lot of stuff I like. Even the weird stuff like Freddy’s rebirth which, wow. I even like the comic book death scene and I get a kick that I saw a lot of Marvel stuff at the start and end of that sequence. And while I can wish it was more polished so to speak but what can you do on a rushed schedule? Though I think it’s fine even in spite of that.

    I disagree on Yvonne however if only because I don’t find her much annoying and it’s cool that a black girl gets to not only survive but also help out defeating Freddy a bit what with freeing her mother and all. Actually it would be cool if a future film had a final girl who is black or at the very least non-white.

    Dan’s death scene, I love the effects work for this. Basically it looked like if H.R. Giger designed Ghost Rider and I love the rapid editing and music for this. Over the top? Maybe but I like the execution. Whit Hertford, seen him in Full House, Peter Pan and the Pirates, even Land Before Time 3. And my first introduction to him was yeah, Jurassic Park. Can’t believe I didn’t recognize him the first time I saw Nightmare on Elm Street 5.

    I also like the soundtrack and the score, I always remember much of that score and the songs. Regarding the premise, I always saw it as Freddy hijacking Alice’s baby. Like no question Dan’s the father but I think the idea was Freddy just hijacking the baby to make the kid like him.

    I know in a previous draft of the script, Greta’s death was more about art stuff or statues tearing her apart. Though I think that’s for a separate film anyway given Greta’s death in the final film is disturbing as all hell.

    Funny enough though, I memorize a lot of Freddy’s dialogue from this film. I don’t know why but I guess I thought it was very memorable enough but then again, I memorize Freddy’s dialogue from ALL the films.

    Funny though, I was thinking Take on Me with the comic book stuff. The director of the Ninja Turtles movie name is Steve Barron by the way, he even made Coneheads and Rat.

    Back to Mark’s death scene, I’m impressed everything but Mark was done in black and white for that scene. You got to admire the lengths they went to for this film. For that Rob Liefeld comparison, now that you bring it up, I’m amused a Rob Liefeld-esque character can’t kill Freddy which excites me greatly. Oh and fun fact because of the dozens of Marvel comics in a few scenes from this film, Marvel did have the publication rights to make Nightmare on Elm Street comics but only for two issues due to the president at the time realizing what the films were…which begs the question why said president even bothered getting the rights if he didn’t like Horror movies.

    Admittedly though, I don’t get how Freddy was defeated so maybe Hertford describing it as him barfing on Freddy is pretty apt. But I really, really dig the asylum and M.C. Escher stuff myself. The perspectives, the effects, everything. Just amazing really. Amazing it took four weeks to shoot and got Stephen Hopkins the gig to direct Predator 2. Like that one myself too actually.

    But yeah, Nightmare on Elm Street 5, not as bad as people say it is.”

    Weird thing though, the first draft by John Skipp and Craig Spector was rejected by New Line because, not kidding, it was if Stanley Kubrick made a Nightmare on Elm Street film. The writers thought it was a compliment at first. Yeah.

    Bowfinger I watched recently and it’s a solid comedy. Most of the jokes do land and with a lot of precision, probably the best film Frank Oz ever made. I mean, can’t hate a film that made a middle finger to Scientology. And probably my favorite comedic set piece is the freeway scene. Though I wish RDJ had more moments.

    Digimon I saw religiously as a kid alongside Pokemon. Though in fairness to Digimon, it at least knew when to finish the story unlike Pokemon. Especially since every season since the second has been standalone. And it had character development, stakes. English dub I wouldn’t call perfect though but what can you do?
    Though take back what you said about Sharlto Copley. That dude was great in The A-Team

  6. Bowfinger. What is your favorite example of a celebrity playing “Totally-Not-Themselves-Wink-Wink”?

    Ponyo. I think I’ve seen every single film in Miyazaki’s oeuvre. What director’s entire oeuvre have you watched?

    Real House Husbands of Hollywood. So I was a House Husband for somewhere between 3 and 4 years, as a combined total in two different stretches of time. The first was when my wife had our first baby and it was an intentional decision. The second was when we moved 3000 miles for my wife’s job and it was half-way intentional, half-way not intentional as it took me a while to find a good job in our new state. I haven’t been one for a year and a half now, pretty happy at my new job, and I don’t have any desire to be a house husband again but you can never tell with life so we’ll see. But while I was being a house husband, and even now looking back at that phase of my life, I sought out media about the experience and it was really really rare to find a good depiction of the experience as I lived it. The only one I can recommend without reservation is the 2010 TV version of Parenthood where Erika Christensen’s character works full time as a lawyer while her husband stays at home and raises their child. That show captured the House Husband experience in a way that felt real and meaningful to me and I struggle to think of any other media that did. So, what is your favorite depiction of House Husbands in media?

    About a year after Detroit Rock City came out I was dragged by a friend to Kiss’s Farewell Tour. I’m not, and I wasn’t, a huge KISS fan and had mainly heard of them thanks to previews I had seen of this movie and as my friend was pressuring me to go see it I thought it was pretty odd that a band who was old enough to have a nostalgia movie made about kids going to see them was still playing concerts. And now, 19 years later, I’ve lost count of how many goodbye tours they have had, but they are having one more this year that they are swearing up and down is it, for realizes. Let’s just say I’ll believe it when I see it.
    Sprokets movie script. I do not have the fortitude to read that thing. Anyone want to skim through it and tell the group what they think? http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/Unprocessed/Sprockets.txt?fbclid=IwAR3bB9lkYl9FvJ0qeH9DBRvyuCtzWevBLz0sbiWlVzyuKS5XcUoqDfhzgcA

  7. Chris would know Lisa Rinna if you had called her “the lady with the messed up lips”.

    My mom would watch hours of Fox Reality Channel b/c it would show old cop shows from the early 90s, like Real Stories of the Highway Patrol, or that breaking the magician’s code show. They loved showing their logo before and after commercial breaks and it would make this annoying sound that sounded like someone loading a gun? yeah no.

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