26 thoughts on “Laser Time – World of Colorization

  1. To this day I still refuse to watch the colourized King Kong.

    By the way as a side, every time stories of visits to Japan comes up, you guys don’t actually paint a pleasant picture despite laughing it off. Of course this only based on what I’m hearing here but locals who will actively make fun of/look down on foreigners, infer they smell and consider them “dogs/talking dogs” etc, makes me not want to go there. Just something I’ve noticed over the episodes.

    Great as always still.

    1. I have been living in Japan for the last 6 months and there is a difference in visiting and living here. Most Japanese people I have meet for the first time assume that I’m visiting. Then they always ask “why come to Japan?” because they seem to want leave Japan. Also people I have meet here are super friendly and treat you with great respect if they know that you plan to stay for at least a year and do everything they can to make you feel welcome. At the local bar I go to in Shimokitazawa (which is a trendy area so most people speak decent English) always make me feel more at home there more than I ever did in Ireland.

      So basically what I’m saying is Chris and the others stories of Japan are of visitors and not those of people who live here long enough to get a greater understanding of the people and culture.

    2. Fair enough although not knowing how Chris, Hank and co conduct themselves, first time welcomes don’t seem to be there. Like most people who go to a country, I don’t plan on living there so why would i want to go if the locals aren’t going to give me the benefit of the doubt? I don’t know, I’ve never been so you defiantly more experience with it all I suppose.

      Let’s just say I wouldn’t be surprised if someone on the show COMPLAINS about locals of another country for similar behavior in a future episode.

  2. As much as I enjoyed the episode, my awful OCD requires that I point out that you’ve discussed Hanks T.V. appearance before. I believe it was Cape Crisis immediately following TGS.

  3. Yeah, I also remember hearing about Hank’s TV appearance before, wouldn’t have been able to pinpoint the episode like AmAliveOMG did, but still.

    Anyway, good episode, but it felt too short. I mean, surely there was more to this topic than just the examples mentioned, no? It was a good listen regardless ^^

    Also, I completely get the charm of physical and practical effects over CG, but I don’t feel all that bothered by CG most of the time, I guess I just see it and accept it as another style, with it’s pros and cons. Though there ARE places were it feels super jarring… (Like in the Sam Raimi first spiderman movie, when the green goblin disintegrates a bunch of people… God does that look awful, seriously, that movie has aged terribly all around.)

    1. I agree with your statement about practical effects vs CG. I think it becomes jarring (or just plain noticeable) when CG is forced on top of the practical effects, especially when they are as old as SW’s practical effects.
      As they explained in the Gas Problems episode: Fast Five does a really good job of melding both practical and CG effects. So there is definitely room for both.

      I do not understand why people still have reverence for the Rami Spider-Man’s. Just like the first X-Men,: For the time they were great and new… but watching it now is borderline painful.

  4. Really fun episode… even though it dissolved into another we hate George Lucas rant lol.

    i think any directors cut of a comedy movie (especially a Judd Apataw one) really ruins things for me. If there’s one thing I have learned about “cut material” is that it is cut for a reason…

    1. I really think the Lord of the Rings Extended Editions are exceptions to that.

      My problem with them is that, if Jackson KNOWS he can do even longer Extended Editions, why doesn’t he just cut the theatrical versions down to a reasonable length?

      The superfans are gonna buy the extended one anyway.

      For example, a lot of the moviegoing public complained about RotK’s endless endings. I personally though that there was no way the Grey Havens scene should have been in the theatrical release. That movie should have ended at the coronation with everyone bowing to the hobbits and then the zoomout to the map.

      Everything after that would have been much better served being saved for the Extended edition.

  5. It’s kinda an ‘under the radar’ entry, but Star Trek VI was made progressively worse (IMO) on home video since ’92. The extended ending with “Scooby Doo” overtones…the “joy” of hearing Scotty calling someone a “Klingon Bitch”…

    And the DVD SE further fouls with the mind meld sequence by adding in shots of the conspirators, complete with melodramatic CLANG orchestral beats.

    I’m SO glad the ’09 Blu-Ray brought the theatrical version back.

  6. *sigh* I hate this topic because I always seem to fall on the opposite side of every other nerd on the planet.

    I actually like it when they go back and improve stuff because they can.

    I mean, not always. But I actually agree with Geoge Lucas’ stance on it of “This is the way I originally intended it to be, but wasn’t able to at the time.” And I think, if that statement is TRUE, then I’m completely okay with them updating things and making changes.

    In George Lucas’ case, I don’t actually believe that’s true all the time. It’s pretty obvious he didn’t originally intend for Han to shoot first, etc.

    But that’s movies, video game, I usally LOVE remakes. I’ve just had so many great experiences with them where I just honestly believe they’re better than the original.

    Super Mario All-Stars.
    Bionic Commando: Rearmed
    Maverick Hunter X
    Final Fantasy IV: The Complete Collection
    DuckTales Remasterd
    Dragon Quest 5 and 6 on the DS

    These were all fantastic remakes that improve on the originals, not just graphically, but oftentimes mechanically. Smoothing out archaic features and mechanics that you would never do these days, and not just keeping it the old way because it’s the old way, when the only reason they DID it the old way in the first place was because they had no other options, not because it was actually GOOD.

    I’m simply not a believe in preserving the bad simply for the sake of preservation.

    1. FFIV on PSP was a great remake! I still have a nostalgia fuelled preference for the old blocky sprites from the SNES original, but the new ones are still lovely.

      On that note, the Resident Evil REmake on Gamecube is the king of remakes. I’d love a HD port for the PS3/360.

      1. Oh, and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. I enjoy that version much more than the original. I know the cutscenes are ridiculously matrixy, I don’t think it’s any dumber than anything else in the series.

  7. In defense of the Blade Runner Theatrical Cut, yes all those things you said are true and the VO is pointless and made to talk down to a stupid audience.

    HOWEVER, I still enjoy it as it gives the film a more Film Noir feeling, which is what it was going for in the beginning.

    I like both versions of the film but they feel like different experiences.

    Also, Red Dwarf is still funny and holds up despite the effects. Though I wouldn’t expect a die hard trekkie to find Red Dwarf funny.

  8. And the ‘Blade Runner’ revisions are a tricky thing. There were several different work prints in circulation for test screenings, plus the tacked on happy-ending-footage-borrowed-from-Kubrick and the narration.

    The ’92 Director’s cut was a quick and dirty edit for the 10th anniversary, that basically lopped off the happy ending, removed the narration, and edited in the unicorn dream.

    The ’07 Final Cut is a proper edition of the ’92 cut, with some slight trims in places where the narration extended the shot, and some retroactive FX fixes put in place (lip sync, head replacement, and such). The original practical effects were all re-composited as well, kinda like the process for the TNG Blu-Rays.

    I think ‘Blade Runner’ is a marvelous film, and invokes the spirit of PK Dick, but isn’t necessarily an adaptation. It throws the bulk of the novel away.

  9. Never really thought about how I would feel about restoring things with “enhancments”. I guess I’m too young to really have something I loved in the past be remastered in someway. But It’s gotta be coming up soon I’m sure. Thanks for the interesting episode guys!

  10. Love you guys, this is apropos of nothing, I just felt like saying that.

    About the whole CGI vs. practical effects bit, as a much younger audience member, I never really have any problems with CGI. Dated stuff does look terrible and takes me out of the movie, and I can really respect what goes into models and such, but I’ve never had a preference over one another.

  11. Hey, the Evangelion rebuild movies are awesome and I prefer them over the original series; less filler more action. That third movie is raw dog shit though.

  12. *skim skim skim* Yes! No one’s talked about Evangelion!

    The original Evangelion was an indictment of anime as an escapist fantasy (Quote Hideaki Anno: “Animation is on certain points, very close to the pornography industry. All your physical needs are met. You can watch different animations and find anything you desire.”). Despite its incredible popularity, it failed in its goals, fueling the post-Evangelion era of even MORE inward-gazing fantasy-fulfillment material. Evangelion was destroyed.

    But it’s okay. We can rebuild it. We have the technology.

    Evangelion 1.0: You Are (Not) Alone was slightly sleeker, slightly blander, and much shinier version of the first several episodes. Nothing more and nothing less. Sure, a couple minor events were changed or reorganized, but all in all it was an exceptionally conservative re-tooling. No need to be scared: the Evangelion you remember hasn’t changed at all. It’s the same thing as before, just BETTER.

    The first build: Evangelion as fanservice.

    Evangelion 2.0: You Can (Not) Advance is the divergence point, with a feel all its own and a plot splitting off in its own direction. You didn’t like the philosophizing? We’ll ditch it. Tired of Shinji’s emo-ness? We’ll ditch that, too! Hey, you know what would be great? If Asuka had a crush on Shinji! And Rei, too! You know what Evangelion needs? Another girl. This one has glasses! And she’s crazy! But not boring crazy – awesome, psycho-crazy! Remember that scene where that one Eva ate the other one? Let’s do that, but cooler and even DARKER! And remember how sometimes the Evas went berserk? We’ll do that, but MORE!

    The second build: Evangelion for people who don’t like Evangelion.

    Evangelion 3.0: You Can (Not) Redo. At the moment, I’m impatiently awaiting the arrival of the DVD in my mailbox. Until then, I can only describe it by hearsay: a 70-minute lecture dredging up all the “bad” parts of Evangelion and smearing them in the viewer’s face. You liked the homoerotic tension between Shinji and Kaworu, right? No? Well HAVE MORE OF IT.

    The third build: Evangelion AT fans of Evangelion.

    If you want a longer, less dumb explanation of these same concepts, you might want to look over here: http://wrongeverytime.com/2014/02/10/once-more-with-fury-rebuilding-evangelion/

  13. Brett – Thanks for mentioning the old Fox channel. Having also grown up in Southern Illinois, I wonder if we were watching the same channel? It was Channel 30 here near St. Louis. Before Fox had regular programming, I distinctly remember the following movies (in addition to Dune) played in heavy rotation pretty much every weekend: Alien, Aliens, Predator, Enemy Mine, The Fly Big Trouble In Little China, Legend, Project X, Ladyhawke, Red Sonja, Conan The Barbarian, and Conan The Destroyer. Apart from the fact that most of these are good movies, I’m sure at least part of the reason I like them is the fact that I saw all of them every few weekends for the span of three or four years at a time when we only had seven channels (2, 4, 5, 9, 11, 13, and 30).

    I also remember watching ST:TNG on Channel 13, which I think at that time was broadcast from either Carbondale or Mt. Vernon. I don’t remember a whole lot else about the station other than that it would sometimes play the War Of The Worlds TV series, televised Howard Stern, and old (public domain?) movies.

    Around this same time, too, we were also able to sometimes pick up Channel 8 (the Carbondale PBS station) whenever there was high solar activity.

    All of this is, of course, before my family finally could get cable television and probably sounds horribly archaic to people who were born after 1990.

  14. Ugh, who gives a fuck if Blade Runner doesn’t follow the book — many films do this. Such a pointless critique to give primacy to a book that isn’t even that good. Let the film speak for itself.

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