The Chipmunks & Ernest Get Movies, Roseanne Ends, Jurassic Park Continues, and Pirates of the Caribbean Have To Go Back – May 19-25

This week: in 1987 we get a trio of big movies as The Chipmunks and Ernest make their movie debuts alongside Eddie Murphy’s return to Beverly Hills and the first reveal of Star Trek Next Gen’s cast. In 1997, two long-running comedies conclude as Roseanne and Wings say goodbye as we all say hello to The Lost World: Jurassic Park. 2007 brings the third Pirates of the Carribean movie while we watch the much-anticipated season finales of Heroes and Lost.


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36 thoughts on “The Chipmunks & Ernest Get Movies, Roseanne Ends, Jurassic Park Continues, and Pirates of the Caribbean Have To Go Back – May 19-25

  1. My dad watched Hill Street Blues, and I hated it, but the music was pretty nifty. I thought we were going to be given a sample, then suddenly we were hearing Molly Dodd, that wasn’t very interesting.

    I bought the DVD of Hey Vern, It’s Ernest recently, its very weird for a Saturday morning CBS kids show from the late 80’s, I remember a lot of the bits, but it still seems weirder than I remember.

    No one chuckled when Dave said “Large Marge-in'” while talking about Lost.

  2. The Jurrasic Park Telltale game actually is a direct sequel to the first film. The first chapter actually happens concurrently with the first film. Nedry’s canister is a key plot point. So someone at Telltale also wondered what happened to that shaving cream can.

    Also Overblood is so bad it’s good. It’s worth playing just for the horrid voice acting and cheesy story.

  3. Don’t know how true it is, but I remember hearing somewhere that Spielberg had no interest in making The Lost World (he was much more preoccupied with Schindler’s List and Saving Private Ryan at the time) and left the actual directing of the film largely to the second unit, which would explain why it’s such a mess.

    I mainly remember the film because it was the first time I became aware of the term ‘plot hole’ because of the third act, where a ship somehow manages to dock in San Diego with the T Rex still locked inside the hull, but with the entire ship’s crew all mysteriously dead, which the script makes no attempt to explain.

    It’s still better than Jurassic World, though.

  4. After I heard Brett was leaving, I was hoping that he would pop-in to chime in on certain things, like Star Trek, and lo and behold you guys delivered exactly that. Thanks Brett, I hope you can make more appearances in the future!

  5. when future archaeologists uncover this podcast and listen back, they’re gonna think Lost was this major cultural touchstone for humans in the late 20th century, based on the amount of time & attention it’s given on the show

    1. I dunno, guys. I was pretty into Dave talking about Lost when it first started, but then it was pretty clear he didn’t know where he was going with it. Now that I think he has a plan for how he wants to stop talking about Lost, I’m back on board. I can’t possibly be disappointed!

  6. Fucking Lost World… So I saw that shit opening day – like practically the first showtime on Friday afternoon, and I was blown away. Fucking loved it. I was all like “Holy shit – WAY better than the first. Amazing movie!”

    So then my brother wanted to see it and asked me if I would see it again. And I was like “Fuck yeah, it’s awesome. Let’s go!” So I saw it again that Sunday night. Less than 72 hours after my first screening… and about halfway through, I was like “Holy shit, what was I thinking. This is boring as fuck.” And I completely turned on it.

    I still kinda like the San Diego sequence, but otherwise… pass.

  7. Gotta plug this, sorry it’s so long.

    May 1997 – Couldn’t find an exact date – The Virgin New Adventures book line ends with the publication of the last book, “So Vile a Sin”.

    In 1991, Virgin acquired the license to publish an ongoing Doctor Who series of books since the series was no longer on the air. It was eventually accompanied by a line of books featuring the past Doctors (1-6 at the time).

    Authors who wrote for the line include past established Doctor Who episode writers and new up and coming writers including:

    Paul Cornell – Who wrote several acclaimed books including the original version of Human Nature, later an award winning episode.

    Gareth Roberts – who later went on to write several Who episodes.

    Russell T Davies – who later went on to resurrect the series for TV.

    Mark Gatiss – who has written several episodes of Who, been featured as an actor on Game of Thrones and co-created Sherlock with Steven Moffat.

    And finally a young Steven Moffat wrote his first published Who work, a short story, for Virgin in a short story collection. He went on to write several acclaimed episodes and then showrunner after Russell Davies.

    The series was notable for taking Doctor Who in a slightly more adult and darker direction, particularly the character of the Doctor himself. What’s notable about So Vile a Sin is that “difficulties arose in the publication of this novel due to the author suffering a major computer failure, leading to it being delayed and another author stepping in to help finish it.” The book was eventually published , out of order, as the last book in the series, but after the death of a companion had already been spoiled.

    After the Doctor Who movie that aired on Fox had been announced with Paul McGann in 1996, Virgin’s license for Who was not renewed, though they were allowed to finish publishing their run until the end of the contract. The series went on afterwards, without the Doctor, starring Bernice Summerfield, a companion that had been created for the books.

    The book line reverted back to the BBC and was launched in June of 1997. Several, but not all, of the authors returned to write for the BBC series as well.

    As a Who fan in high school/university, these were dark times. Star Trek and Babylon 5 were everywhere and Who seemed destined to be forgotten. The books kept the series alive in people’s minds and arguably were training for several of the writers. It also created a super cool concept – Looms. Basically, Time Lords weave new Time Lords out of genetic material because they can’t have children naturally. The book that features these, Lungbarrow, was very, very controversial for its time and is still debated to this day. I was always able to get the bookstore near me to order a copy because they knew I would buy it every month. I have a complete collection of this series and they kept me going through high school and university. I think back on this time, and series, very fondly.

  8. Foo Fighters The Colour and The Shape was the very first new release music CD I ever bought. I listened to it repeatedly from the moment I snapped it into my Disc Walkman. I listened to it on my mom’s CD boom box at home and when my brother learned to play the ukulele he figured out how to play Monkey Wrench by ear. Years later I remember moments when a friend and I would play the album (the same CD I’d originally bought new from Wal-Mart) in his car stereo and sing along. I still have that same CD now and it’s one of the few albums I always make sure to copy completely onto every computer I’ve owned and device I’ve carried.

  9. I love Home Improvement. I am 33, so it hits that 90s nostalgia button. I have seen Last Man Standing. It is not funny at all. I love King of Queens. Kevin Can Wait? Bleh. I think my enjoyment of the original installments really has to do with supporting cast. And honestly, Last Man Standing was cancelled because President Obama is gone, and making jokes about Democrat senators would go so far over those viewers heads. Better to cancel before that point.

    1. I don’t love Home Improvement, but I don’t understand the contempt for it the hosts seem to have for it. The show-within-a-show was a consistently funny intro, and I liked that it was a moron at least trying to improve himself. It also had a nice James Brooks-like touch where the show eventually revealed that Tim’s father died at 40 when he was 11, and like any good midwesterner bottled up those feelings so that they’d only manifest in feuds with Bob Villa and trouble connecting with his kids. Obviously it was a really formulaic show, but the cast had a nice rapport and Tool Time was a good excuse for celebrity cameos.

      1. I can only guess that it’s retroactive contamination from Last Man Standing. Like, Home Improvement wasn’t amazing, but it wasn’t offensively bad either.

        Also, Last Man Standing was canceled for a variety of reasons that essentially boil down to “it wasn’t worth the money it would have taken to keep it going”. However, if they wanted to say it was because they were distancing themselves from a particular strain of politics, they very well could haveā€”Tim Allen did recently compare being a conservative in Hollywood to being a Jew during the Holocaust, which is just irredeemably stupid no matter how you slice it.

  10. A couple stray thoughts on The Lost World — The movie is garbage, but I’m still enthralled by the scene where Vince Vaughn’s character is struggling to keep their vehicles from slipping over the cliff; it feels like the only part that Spielberg might have been invested. Also, I’m so happy you guys brought up the shaving cream canister as a red herring. It made me remember when my family saw Jurassic Park in the theatre, when Nedry dropped the canister, my mom leaned over to me and cynically whispered, “Look – they’re already setting up the sequel.”

  11. Bit disappointed there wasn’t more talk about Veronica Mars because that was *my* show the same way a lot of people feel about Buffy (but I get its because it seems like nobody really watched it). I think it helped that I was the same age as the character but it was unlike any other teen show because of its noirness. It was super cynical (as was I at the time) and wasn’t afraid to have Veronica be flawed. Plus it knew how to work with colour (

    Sadly the third season was its weakest, arguably due to network insistence on no over-arching storyline, and I’ll never get over how a show with a strong female protagonist was replaced by a Pussycat Dolls reality TV show. However, there’s still many great lines (“Dad, your hooker is here”, “If I want you to speak I’ll wave a Snausage in front of your nose” and “I hope we’re still friends after I taser you” to name a few).

    I was super glad we got a movie and I still remember seeing it on opening night and afterwards walking through London for a while just because I was so pleased with it (and for once the weather wasn’t awful). I’d love the mini-series they keep talking about perhaps doing, but if it never comes I’m happy enough with how the film (and two books) wrapped things up.

    And I don’t know if you were joking, but the show creator is indeed Rob Thomas who also does iZombie (and both versions of Cupid, Party Down and the comedy VM web spinoff Play It Again, Dick – I just had to say that title sorry), but he’s not Matchbox Twenty Rob Thomas. Although he did star in an episode of iZombie as himself and SPOILER ALERT was eaten alive by zombies and that really changes the meaning of the lyrics to Unwell.

    1. Totally agreed, sad that Veronica Mars didn’t get any attention. The first two seasons of that show are really, really good. I really liked that unlike some shows where characters are just terrible to each other and everyone is fine with it, that Veronica would have to occasionally deal with the consequences of treating people badly; the Adam Scott episode in particular was a really good one where she was just flat-out wrong. And Amanda Seyfried was so amazing in a part that’s just flashbacks and hallucinations.

      But yeah, season 3 was a big step in the wrong direction, there was clear network interference, and it was really a mercy killing that it ended when it did.

      1. Yeah Amanda Seyfried was amazing in it (especially given she was just playing a dead person so could have been half-arsed). Glad to see she’s done well for herself since.

        Likewise, Tessa Thompson. It was amazing how they made us hate her character and then really like her and she’s now one of those people that will make me much more interested in a film if I know she’s in it.

  12. In San Francisco, Channel 36.4 airs the Hill Street Blues at 6PM.
    Cast member Betty Thomas went on to direct Wayne’s World and Private Parts.

  13. i want to extend my sincerest thanks to dave for giving time to the lost season finale. its not my favorite show of all time, or even top 5, but the cynicism shown by chris to the show is just sorta ridiculous coming from a guy who likes the shit that chris likes. lost obviously isn’t shakespeare, it was a sci-fi show for your mom, your grandpa, and everyone in between on network television. it is second to none in terms of characters in the literal DOZENS that people care about, and the twists and turns were about as captivating as any twists and turns in movie or tv history. is it perfect? no. does the movie independence day really hold up to intellectual scrutiny? no, but it’s awesome anyway. in regards to them introducing stuff and never explaining it, id argue they explain damn near everything that’s remotely important to the story. to the point where i wish they hadn’t, because some answers are just not going to be as cool as you’d hoped. i mean, they even go so far as to explain THE MOTIVATIONS OF THE SMOKE MONSTER. “it’s a smoke monster” is seriously enough to satisfy me in a show like this, but i’d argue they went out of their way to explain things to people, and that hurt the show more than helped. but i digress. it’s a great show that for the most part wrapped itself up in a halfway decent bow by the end. thank you dave for the inclusion.

    ps. i am NOT a crackpot.

  14. Oh man, all these movies that came out in 2007, I saw so many times. I was a senior in high school in 2007 and lived in town with a drive-in movie theater. I used to go to the drive-in every weekend regardless of what was playing. My friends and I mostly went to drink beer and smoke weed and to see everyone from our high school, but with a double feature every weekend I saw these movies a lot.

  15. Beverly Hills Cop 2 is genuinely great and fantastic. Everyone in it is really superb and fits into the film and they all seem to be having a great time and it was a perfect choice to get Tony Scott to direct it because he understood the vibe of the original film and enhances all the strengths and positive elements. The way the characters interact with each other is funny and sincere and Eddie Murphy and Judge Reinhold’s friendship seems very sincere and is conveyed in a really cool way. But also the action scenes are incredibly well done and organised and the soundtrack is awesome, it deserves another watch and a reappraisal. It also has one of the best endings to any film ever:

  16. As a plucky nineteen year old, I was not expecting to have any personal connection to the 1990s game segment but your mentioning of Overblood got me! Gameinformer has had a long-running series called Super Replay (an offshoot of their standard Replay) where they play through entire classic games. Overblood was one of the first Super Replays of theirs I watched, way back in 2010, and also one of the first lets-play style videos I ever watched. This video series also introduced me to history’s greatest monster, Dan Ryckert ( and the whole editorial staff of the magazine at the time. It also, circuitously, helped me get into games media and discussions and helped me learn more about the history of the medium.

    Never forget Pipo.

  17. I know you guys are more accustomed to being corrected by sports nerds, but as a giant heavy metal geek, I have to tell that Scream Bloody Gore was the debut album by Death, not an album by Helloween.

    Death were an influential extreme metal band, and pioneers of (surprise!) Of the death metal subgenre. While Scream Bloody Gore is a bit immature, their later records are classics as they began to introduce progressive and melodic elements.

  18. I have to admit that hearing you guys talk about the Chipmunks Adventure was probably my favorite part of the episode. I believe I’m only a couple years younger than Chris and so it resonates well with me because I watched that movie so many times as young boy. The story is decent enough at best but the music and that was incredible. Admittedly when Chris kept talking about diamond dolls, I was drawing a blank and couldn’t think of what the song was for the life of me. So when they played it at the end of the segment, I freaked out and instantly remembered all the words to it. Good call man, good call. I would join you guys for the Monday night movie if my wife did not surprise me last night with tickets to WWE raw. Definitely will be there in spirit though

  19. Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End is the only movie I have ever fallen asleep to in the theater before. I had gone with a group of friends where none of us were particularly invested in the films but all decided to dress up as pirates for fun, except for one friend who donned a Mickey Mouse Fantasia starry wizard hat and proceeded to attempt to order tickets for the new Harry Potter film at the ticket counter. I remember as the credits were rolling being shaken awake by my friend, wiping drool off the side of my face, standing up, and about a king size buckets worth of popcorn and straw wrappers spilling off my lap from my friends tossing popcorn and trash at me while I was sleeping.

  20. An additional little known fact about Ross Bagdasarian of Chipmunks fame is that he was the composer and pianist in Alfred Hitchcock’s Rear Window.
    I love the show with flashbacks of pieces of my past and really enjoy Diana’s Classic Corner.
    Keep it coming.

  21. One, no one should say they love Roseanne the person. The show was significant and often excellent, and Roseanne herself is a very funny comedian. But she’s horribly racist and transphobic, and I am NOT looking forward to the series reboot under her guidance.

    Two, I’ll kind of defend Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End, but only in so far as I feel like it and Dead Man’s Chest should NOT have been separate movies. Unlike Diana, I really like the epic pirate fantasy take, as much of a shift as it is from the excellent first movie. But there was only enough content for ONE sequel, not two. But Disney got greedy and did The Hobbit thing before The Hobbit ever did it and artificially split it up into multiple films, padding it out with bullshit to justify it. Dead Man’s Chest is so ungodly boring because it distracts itself with pointless action sequences, and At World’s End can’t seem to focus on any of its myriad subplots. But I think there’s a great movie between the two, and would love for someone to take it on as an editing project. A single 2-2.5 hour movie out of the 5+ hours of content is possible.

  22. I’ve had a running theory that Addicted to Love and Lost World are the reason that Austin Powers got so much word-of-mouth. A handful of buddies and I all have the same date story: We took dates to the movies, we argued over watching Addicted to Love (a chick flick) or Lost World (an action movie), so we compromised and saw Austin Powers instead. That way, nobody wins. I could see that being a nationwide phenomenon: dudes wanted to see the new Jurassic Park, and they ABSOLUTELY didn’t want to see the new Meg Ryan vehicle, and Austin Powers was there to pick up the pieces.

  23. Also, I had a friend go on an MTV reality show – it was not Pimp My Ride, but he got to talk to some of the PAs that worked on Pimp My Ride, and the whole thing was staged. Those kids never owned those cars to begin with, and they never got to keep anything at the end. They were paid amateur actors, and the cars used for the show were part of an advertising portfolio for West Coast Customs. The original idea WAS to make the show exactly what it seems, but the taxes and insurance that those kids would have to pay for those cars would bankrupt them.
    I won’t go into his story about the show he WAS on – I’ll keep that story for when Dave inevitably brings it up on a future episode.

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