George W Bush gets a movie, Jodie Foster earns her first Oscar, and nobody hates Roseanne yet! Oct 12-18: Thirty Twenty Ten

Faith joins Buffy, Barney gets an intervention, Jodie Foster really earns her Oscar, Jerry Lewis decides your favorite movies, Oliver Stone loves George W, Chucky gets hitched, Max Payne is painful, Unsolved Mysteries gets a new host and Roseanne debuts almost 30 years to the day of her ABC disappearance! All that and more this week on Thirty Twenty Ten, you’re podcast look back on the week that was 30, 20, and 10 years ago.


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13 thoughts on “George W Bush gets a movie, Jodie Foster earns her first Oscar, and nobody hates Roseanne yet! Oct 12-18: Thirty Twenty Ten

  1. You know, I bet the anniversary of the Hershey’s bell commercial is probably coming up soon! It had to premiere in either the late 80s or early 90s.

    Vance DeGeneres, formerly from The Daily Show has some songs on the Accused soundtrack, under the band he had with a lady from the Go-Gos, Gina Schock?

    The special about the stuntman was probably a product of the writer’s strike, since tv didn’t resume production until July. So lots of nonfiction programs, I’m sure. But oh god, the trashbag movie! I need to revisit that episode of 302010!

    I think original Roseanne (up until that last season!) is still ok to watch. But early 2018 Roseanne needs to just be forgotten. Dan yelling would scare the hell out of me when I was little.

    I mentioned this on twitter, but all I know from Beloved was that it kinda flopped at the box office, and Oprah went into a deep depression for like a year. We did watch the scene where Oprah killed her kids in college however.

    oooh, you guys are going to see more chicklit (ugh) coming up soon in Sarah’s book corner section. Practical Magic sounds like an adult disney movie 😛

  2. I might be wrong, but I thought Dead Space came out this week in 2008. I only remember, because I got it on launch day and my friend picked up SOCOM. He chose poorly. We brought both games back to my house, and ended up playing the COD: World at War beta the whole day instead.

    1. Wikipedia says Oct 13th 2008. Wow, what an amazing game. I really loved Dead Space. Shooting an enemy’s arm off and then using telekinesis to grab it and fire it back at the enemy will always be one the best gameplay mechanics in any game.

  3. I won’t lie, I’m very disappointed you guys barely discussed Night of the Demons given it’s one of my favorite Horror films. Especially given I tweeted to Diana much stuff about it like the girl who played Angela is the niece of Rue McCalahan of The Golden Girls. But I did forget to mention that the opening credits of the film were done by a Disney animator, I forget her name but she would later on animate Ursula and Frollo. According to a featurette, she wax influenced by the Night on Bald Mountain sequence from Fantasia, allow me to demonstrate.

    So yeah, hopefully got your attention somewhat at least. And I also admit more attention was given to Another Woman than Night of the Demons since I hate, hate Woody Allen given what he has done.

    Bride of Chucky I do like however. It’s a pretty fun movie and yeah, the franchise needed a new change of pace-especially given Don Mancini kept up with the trends since this came right on the heels of the Scream franchise (see the poster, remind you of anything?). The humor was fine for this one but then came Seed of Chucky and took it too far where it just wasn’t as funny. But still, Bride of Chucky remains fun. I do know Oprah Winfrey wasn’t too happy about Beloved being beaten by the film. Practical Magic I do like as well, it’s very charming and fun. I like the sisterhood themes and such. But I remember my sister being obsessed with the film, she watched it constantly.

    Max Payne I never saw but I know John Moore directed it given my dislike of The Omen remake. I argue at least Silent Hill IS the best video game movie. Yes, even better than Rampage, don’t @ me. Okay, never saw Rampage but Silent Hill nailed everything about the games. I champion the holy hell out of that movie.

  4. Though I’ve never actually seen the movie the movie “the accused” was actually based on a true story out of my hometown, New Bedford, Massachusetts. (The whaling city, made famous by the book and film among Dick).

    I’m too young to remember, but I’ve always heard how after the case people were still, especially back then in “blame the victim” mode. (Not too dissimilar from today I suppose) and she had to move to Florida to get away from the harassment. Unfortunately she died in a car accident a few years later.

    Not sure how much of the movie covers 100% reality, but thought I’d give some background to the case

  5. Big in TV this week for me was “UFO Cover-Up? LIVE!” which aired October 14, 1988 and was hosted by Mike Farrell of M*A*S*H. It featured stories about sightings and abductions and ways the United States government might have suppressed information about the UFO phenomenon.

    Regardless of the claims made by this show, I credit it with giving second-grade andyk250 and several of my friends a healthy dose of skepticism and suspicion toward the Federal Government. After it aired, even a lot of the normies were talking about it the next day we were at school.

    Thankfully, the whole glorious thing has been preserved on Youtube:

  6. please do not put your threats of violence to your cat in the podcast, even if they’re just a hyperbolic function of how you talk

    please edit that shit out


  7. funny how you pat yourself on the back for passing judgement on a mentally ill woman and then proceed to get so angry with a housecat you threaten to kill it

  8. I never actually saw the accused, but the movie is based on a real life story in my hometown of New Bedford, MA.

    Sadly, just as it is today, the “blame the victim” attitude followed her for years until she left town and moved to Miami. Unfortunately she died a few years later in a car accident.

  9. In the early 1990’s I decided I wanted to start a VHS collection. I bought all the Star Wars film, all the Indiana Jones films, Predator, Robocop, typical films a 12 year old would like and … The Accused. And I never even watched it. Ever. I just had it. And VHS tapes were expensive back in the day. It wasn’t given to me; I remember that, so I must have consciously bought it. I remember trying to collect all of Harrison Ford’s movies, so maybe I was mistaking it for Witness or something? I don’t know. I’ve still yet to watch the film and it still seems weird to me that I bought it. Did anyone else ever buy a VHS tape and then never watch it?

    Re: The loss of love scenes in movies – I hate to say it but does anyone think that this might be due to the prevalence of Internet porn? Back in the 1980’s if there was an R rated movie with a heavy love-scene, a certain number of people would watch it for that (I remember The Onion having an article on “Local Man Has Bizarre Nudity Fetish” where the local man would be more inclined to see a movie if it had nudity in it). But nowadays I feel that audience is so saturated with readily available images on the internet that nudity just isn’t a big draw for any significant number of people to go see a mainstream film for it.

    My parents are divorced and when I was young I used to be driven three hours to spend the weekend at my Dad’s. Most Friday nights we’d go to the local video store so that I could rent a game for that weekend and I can still see Mickey’s Mouscapades sitting on that old wooden game shelf. The design was sparse, the challenge was Nintendo-Hard and the controls were frustrating more than enjoyable. I don’t think it’s a good game now and I probably didn’t think it was a good game in 1988 but once you had already beaten Mario, Zelda, and Mario II you didn’t have a whole lot of options at the time, so I ended up renting it a bunch, The gaming landscape was just so much different than today where there are far more really excellent amazing games out there than I have time for.

    When I first watched Rosanne I don’t think I realized the Conner’s were supposed to be poor. I was ten; the socioeconomic system of the late 1980’s was not something I had any awareness of. To me they were just a funny family having funny adventures. I almost never re-watch the sitcoms of my youth as (similar to video games) my TV time is far too limited to watch the really high quality shows made today that interest me but I really enjoy when you talk about them as through your words I can vaguely remember them but still see them through modern eyes. Also, regarding Rosanne’s character death; Every time a sitcom character dies I flash back to the Tom Arnold Show. This was a pretty forgettable show that followed a toughly unlikable actor and when he finally does something bad enough to get written on the show, the Writers of the show-within-a -show, pull out their “TOM FINALLY DIES FILE” in which anytime one of the writers got mad at the actor they would pitch an idea for killing off the unlikable actor’s character. I do wonder how many real life writers’ room has such a file.

    Bride of Chucky is where I fell off the Chucky franchise. I think I probably just felt too old for it; which is odd because allegedly this series should only be watched by those over the age of 18 and this was the first film released after I was over that age.

    Re: Live Your Life by Rihanna. Papa Chris said that he when he hears this he still thinks of it as new music, the implication being that it isn’t new music. But stop and ask yourself, in what way is this song not new music? Chronologically, sure. But beat-wise? Lyric-wise? Tone-wise? If this song had been recorded in 2008, put on a shelf, and then released in 2018 would people consider it a throwback or would it be an utterly unremarkable example of a typical 2018 song? I think the later, and that is a strong indication that we are in an era that has a low rate of musical change. If you took a popular song from 1978 and released it in 1988 it would stand out like a sore thumb in way that it’s 2008 to 2018 counterparts would not. Bold Claim: I think it not just possible, but probable that the last ten years saw less musical change than any ten year period of the 20th century. If you disagree, what period of the last 100 years saw less musical change than the last ten?

    In retrospect, the window between the film “W’” release and the election of Obama was really small. What’s interesting is that the odds of an “R” becoming president after W were pretty decent for the entire time the film was being made and marketed but by the time it was released it was pretty obvious by most of the polls which way the election was going to go.

    World of Goo was a fun little game that I had on my PC that was hooked up the first HD TV I ever bought. I’d try to convert people to how great it was to cut-the-cable-cord and watch your movies on the internet but most people didn’t really want to have a PC attached to their TV so I’d also show them how you could play games socially when they were hooked up to the big TV. One of those games was World of Goo. Flash forward a year or two to a friend’s wedding. They had little cards at people’s table saying fun facts about the other people at the table in order to increase socialization. One card I picked up said something like, “This person’s favorite game is World of Goo. They gush about it all the time and they want everyone to play it” or something like that. I remember thinking WoG was a fun little game but surprised that anyone would be that emphatic about having others … play … oh! It was about me. To me I wasn’t hyping up the game or anything, I was just using it as a selling point to cutting the cord, but it was a useful reminder that how we see our actions are not necessarily how others see them.

  10. Hoo boy did the end of this episode knock loose a memory for me.

    I was a sophomore in high school and our drama club was doing a production of Little Shop of Horrors. I’d always loved the movie and could practically recite it line for line anyway, so I was stoked. I ended up getting cast as the voice of the Audrey II by basically doing a poor impression of the late, great, Levi Stubbs.

    I was and continue to be very white. As was everyone else in my rural redneck hometown. No one, not even the drama teacher, batted an eyelash at me basically doing the verbal equivalent of blackface. I got compliments on my performance, which was either people being nice or a commentary on just how bad everyone in the production around me was.

    I had a hell of a good time doing that musical because I was basically sitting in a sound booth interpreting lines while everyone else had to be on stage, but damn do I cringe thinking of that impression being done by a young dude who didn’t know any better. I can take solace in knowing there probably aren’t even old VHS tapes of that performance at this point, so it only exists in my memory.

    An aside: during a rehearsal I paused after the line “How about a date with Hedy Lamarr” and shouted “That’s Hedley!” Only one guy laughed. C’est la vie.

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