Muppets Go to Space, Nemo Goes to Slumberland, and Harry Potter Goes to Hogwarts… For the Sixth Time: Thirty Twenty Ten – Jul12-18

Nickelodeon goes West, The Wheel comes back, Little Nemo is more than just a game, Andy Cohen begins to ask the tough questions, somebody kills Dumbledore, Gonzo might not be from Earth, and Tom Cruise is vengefully thirsty! All that and more this week on Thirty Twenty Ten, your weekly look back on the week that was 30, 20, and 10 years ago.


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5 thoughts on “Muppets Go to Space, Nemo Goes to Slumberland, and Harry Potter Goes to Hogwarts… For the Sixth Time: Thirty Twenty Ten – Jul12-18

  1. wow, HP6…by far the worst film in the franchise, it basically should have been called Harry Potter 6, since the HBP was so downplayed in the film…and that titular scene of DD dying felt so anticlimactic on screen. Reading it for the first time years before had me going WTF! WTF!…whereas the film version…didn’t haven’t nearly the impact.

  2. Small correction, Little Nemo came out that week in Japan. In the US, it was 1992. But doesn’t matter as from what I’ve seen, it doesn’t seem that great but this thing had a troubled production to the point when Miyazaki was hired originally to direct, he called it the worst experience of his career.

    Didn’t help that the writers like even Ray Bradbury and the animators weren’t communicating with each other well. Nobody could figure out how to make this work.

    And Lake Placid, saw the trailer when I was a kid and lost interest the minute it was over. In terms of killer croc or gator movies however, sorry but you guys are wrong. Alligator from 1980 is better. Because that movie had the advantage of a script written by John Sayles. Yes, him.

    Hell, I hear Deep Blue Sea discussed more than Lake Placid. My co workers at the Wyndham hotel remember Deep Blue Sea very well right down to the LL Cool J song.

  3. Dear John was a fairly high rated show at the time (it was watched by slightly fewer people than watch Sunday Night Football and The Big Bang Theory _combined_ today) but what are some of the other most forgotten major TV shows? Empty Nest should be there in that I see plenty of Golden Girls love today but exactly zero for Empty Nest. Also, I found out that a show called Anything But Love was in the top ten, ran for four seasons and I didn’t even know it even existed until googling around. Others?
    The US waiting a month for the new James Bond film. When was the last time the US had to wait for a major film like that for that long? I’m kind of wondering if Bond was the last time we had a wait that long.
    Little Nemo’s Adventure in Slumberland. On a pure minute-by-minute basis the game may be THE best puzzle-platformer on the NES. Oh, SMB3 beats it hands down overall because it has 90 levels to this game’s 7, but what a surreal amazement those 7 levels are. I played that game numerous times and have fond childhood memories of it. So I was seriously surprised a couple of years ago to learn that it was based on a movie I never knew existed. I watched it with my kids and it was one the trippiest experiences I’ve ever had while sober because the film tickled a long dormant memory of a memory of a memory but did so in a crazy weird fun-house mirror way. Imagine if you had never read a Batman comic, never saw a Batman cartoon, and never knew Tim Burton’s Batman 1989 existed, and yet you had played through the NES Batman game numerous times in the 80’s and then you never encountered anything Batman related until you watched Batman ’89 thirty years after that. That was 100% what my experience watching this film was like because these weird surreal game characters and game plot points and game levels fell tumbling down memory lane until the deeply hazy part of my mind that remembered them was awoken from a slumber as disjointed pieces I had long forgotten were mismatched suddenly became smooth and understandable. Truly one of the most bizarre internal sensations I’ve felt while watching a film.
    Rip Torn accidently almost robbed a bank? I never knew that!
    UHF Soundtrack. Nothing really sticks out as fantastic to me on this, honestly;
    My Neighbors the Yamadas. My kids usually love Studio Ghibli but they walked out of this one, something much rarer on animated films than when I try to get them to watch 80’s live-action films. So this one and the one about the fighter plane engineer (The Wind Rises) are the only Studio Ghibli films I’ve yet to see. Which Ghibli films have you yet to watch and why?
    Lake Placid came vs Deep Blue Sea. Poll time, if someone is only going to watch one of these films, which one should it be?
    Muppets in Space. I didn’t get into the Muppets until Carrol, and I genuinely liked Island, so I was kind of surprised they went with an original tale on this one but was glad they did. I remember watching it alone in theaters and wondering if at 21 if I was too old for the Muppets and NOPE! I thought it was funny, was glad I went, and was hopeful they’d make more like this. They really didn’t though and it wasn’t until 2011’s Muppets reboot that I feel they did anything that captured the magic like this trilogy did.
    Eyes Wide Shut is a great example of what I think is a central difference in 21st vs 20th century film making: The Downgrade of the Movie Star. Movie stars still get paid tens of millions of dollars and are still a factor in film making, but in the 21st century Spider-Man, the character, is a far bigger “star” than any movie actor in that the character of Spider-Man will get buts in the seat at a level that no actor existing today can do. And that wasn’t really true in the 20th century and this film is a good illustration of that: Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman having sexy sex is what made a Studio Exec green light this film because he thought that would be enough to get buts in the theater. And I don’t think there is a single couple in Hollywood in 2019 who could sell a major big budget film just on the basis of them having sexy sex.
    As far as I can remember this is the first time that the hosts have given three film recommends in one segment: Lake Placid, Muppets in Space, and Eyes Wide Shut. Anyone else remember if they’ve ever done that before
    Buffy Season finale. For my money, The Mayor was the best Big Bad the entire series and deserves to be on a the top five list for all-time Best Big Bads. But Poll time again! Who was the best Big-Bad on Buffy?
    I haven’t re-watched Buffy in 20 years but I binge watched the show while it was airing and that wasn’t easy to do in 1999. When I started getting into Buffy I ordered a couple seasons of it from this sketchy guy off the internet but again, 1999, so I got an 8-hour VHS tapes of the show with the commercials edited out. It was such a crappy quality but I loved it! I thought it was so great to watch episode after episode of the same show. I started noticing little touches of continuity pop up here and there that I hadn’t before and it may have been the first time I really got a sense of a show having a season long arc. What is the first TV show you remember binge watching and how did you do it?
    Dungeon Keeper has had a sad last 20 years. 1 and 2 are remembered pretty fondly but after that 3 got canceled mid-way through development, a Chinese only online game seems to have become vaporware, and a mobile re-boot was universally despised as the worst sort of mobile game. It’s a shame because the fundamental idea, “Play the evil overlord who has to keep building these dungeons that the damn heroes keep breaking into!” is a very solid one with a lot of inherent humor. Oh well, at least we are a getting a Doctor Evil simulator game;
    Harry Potter and the Halfblood Prince. “You are the chosen one Harry, you must not fail.” Honestly, I kind of wish that they had gone with Harry being a decoy. That is, the reason that Dumbledore and the other teachers focused on him and kept making him feel special was to increase Voldemort’s obsession on the child who defeated him. Meanwhile, Neville Longbottom the real chosen one, quietly gains enough skills and confidence that he can handle himself when his moment of destiny happens.
    Huh. Googling around it looks like there was a 4 year gap between last Harry Potter book and last Harry Potter film and there was a 9 and a half year gap between the first Harry Potter film and the last Harry Potter film. Not hugely significant on either recount but given the format of the show you’ll talk about the first film and the last film in the same year. Neat.
    Graduate high school, instantly get funding to start your own business. The Harry Potter-verse is a light post-scarcity society; the way our economy is run simply isn’t how things work for them. Think about it; a simple tent that even a poor family like the Weasley’s can afford contains a mansion when set it up, pretty much all non-magical injuries short of death are instantly curable, most household chores are done by magic or magically enslaved elves, etc etc. As such it seems like people in the Potter-verse have jobs the way we have hobbies. Oh, there is definitely competition for status in the Wizardly World but no Wizard seems to starve or go on Wizard Welfare, heck no Wizard even seems to have a boring job (Even driving a Bus appears to be an exciting job in that Universe). Oh, and Weasley’s joke shop at Universal is pretty cool like pretty much everything in Potter-land which will forever stick in my mind as what 21st century theme parks should be.
    I guess it’s a week of polls: What is your favorite Harry Potter film?
    Hung . What TV shows did you have a “Wait a minute, I don’t have to watch this!” moment of realization on and why?

  4. I saw Half-Blood Prince at Times Square the only time I’ve ever been to NYC while on vacation with my dad. The whole movie, we were sat next to this stereotypical tough-guy New York moviegoer, who talked on the phone the whole time with his gf/wife, who was trying to meet up with him. I swear he doesn’t even give a shit about the movie, he e was like swearing and acting tough and shit just to look cool for her. Later on when this person from the phone had joined him, there’s a scene where Harry is talking to Ginny and this guy turns to the woman and just says, “She is so right for him. She is just so right for him” and I about burst out laughing except I didn’t coz it was New York and I was scared

  5. I didn’t know Simply Red did a cover of “if you don’t know me by now”. I’ve only known the version by Herold Melvin and the Bluenotes. I recently got my motorcycle license and rented a bunch of motorcycle movies about riding to celebrate. I could not with Easy Rider. White dudes in the 60’s talking about how free and above it all they are just annoys me shitless.

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