Tim Burton is late for Halloween, John Travolta and Robin Williams accidentally star in a modern classic and the animation wars of 1989 rage on.

Nov. 15-21: Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor together at last, Disney goes under the sea, dogs go to heaven, Lisa Stansfield can’t find her baby, Christopher Walken can’t find his head, Christmas comes for James Bond, Liev Schreiber makes Citizen Kane, Mo’Nique throws a ham hock, Sandra Bullock throws a football, and Twilight becomes a saga. All that and more this week on Thirty Twenty Ten, your weekly look back on the week that was 30, 20, and 10 years ago.

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3 thoughts on “Tim Burton is late for Halloween, John Travolta and Robin Williams accidentally star in a modern classic and the animation wars of 1989 rage on.

  1. The Little Mermaid. I know Chris loves Roger Rabbit, and I love it too, but I think this is actually a far more important film in terms of Disney history. Roger Rabbit was a huge hit but it was a hit that (sadly) went nowhere. There were no sequels, no imitators, no future for Roger. But Ariel? Her film lead to Disney as we know it today. Her film is what lead to the Disney renaissance that lead to the media Empire that is Disney today. Her film is the true start of the Disney Princesses*. And when it came out I … missed it completely. I was 11. And Ariel was a girl. No WAY was going to see such a movie. Besides I was getting kind of old (again, 11). Maybe too old for cartoons. And then when Beauty and the Beast came out the next year and everyone raved about it I was “DEFINITELY” too old to watch it. It took until Aladdin for me go back to Disney and then I fell in love and got both Little Mermaid and Beauty on VHS and watched them multiple times. Was there ever a time in your life when you thought you were too old for cartoons?
    * (yes, there were Disney princesses before her but none of them were as much of what we think of as a “Disney Princess” as Ariel was).
    Harlem Nights. Now I am very curious about how long it has been since Eddie Murphy said the word motherfucker on screen? Anyone know for sure?
    Mansfield Park (The 1999 version). It’s odd. I’ve only read two of Jane Austin’s books and seen two movies based on those books but I enjoyed both reads and both watches and yet it has been almost ten years since I last read or watched something from her. What is your favorite movie based on one of her books?
    Sleepy Hollow. It’s been almost 20 years since I saw this film and I can remember almost nothing about it but does anyone want to come to its defense? Anyone think it’s a good film?
    The World is Not Enough. Only female bond villain. Huh. I never thought about that before but I can see it for structural reasons. Bond is a violent man who usually deals out violence to his enemies. And I don’t think that even in 2019 male-on-female-villain violence is viewed by audiences the same way as they view male-on-male-villain violence. If you show OUR MALE HERO smashing a male-villain’s face in with a brick, provided that the male-villain was shown to be evil I think you could get audiences to cheer at that in way I don’t think you could ever get them to cheer OUR MALE HERO smashing a female-villain’s face in with a brick.
    First guy to win Who Wants to be a Millionaire. Yea, it was total show boating but it’s a game show! What else could he have done that would have been cooler?
    World is Not Enough The Videogame. With Goldeneye being a touchstone game for people of a certain age, I would have thought that its sequel would have had a tiny bit of impact but I didn’t know this game existed until the show. Does ANYONE have memories of this?
    Classic Corner – Lawrence Oliver’s Henry V. 1944. What is everyone’s favorite version of Henry V?
    Twilight Saga New Moon. It’s interesting re-living the hate for these films. What piece of media loved by women was _most_ accepted by male nerd culture? Keep in mind this is _most_ so we are grading on a curve. My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic would seem to be the number one contender but others?
    Modern Family: Spandow Balay. I fell off around season 4 or five but honestly you all really making me want to go back to watching the show.
    Just Dance for Wii in 2009. Yep, not only is the 2019 version of this the last Wii game every released but the 2019 version is CURRENTLY available at my local target!
    Lego Indiana Jones. I think I got more fun from watching the cut-scenes of the lego games on youtube than I did from the lego games themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBiYrBJ06Hw
    Left 4 Dead 2. I know this is a classic but I played it for the very first time this year! And as someone who came at it with no nostalgia whatsoever I can tell you that it holds up very well for a ten year old game. I’m not heavily into shooters so I didn’t play it for long but what I played was fun. Anyone from the LT-community up for a game of this?
    Bad Romance is my favorite Lady Gaga song of all time. What’s yours?

  2. On the subject of The Little Mermaid, I have to say I absolutely do not frame the story as Ariel giving up her voice for a man. So, it’s Death of the Author time and let’s have one trans woman give her interpretation of the Little Mermaid.

    Ariel is a girl with a body doesn’t match her identity (She literally sings “Flippin’ your fins you don’t get too far. Legs are required for jumpin’, dancin'”).

    Her family doesn’t understand her. She has to hide all the objects associated with the life she wants to live. Sebastion sings a whole song trying to convince her she’s better off living how she was assigned at birth. Then her father discovers her private closet of stuff. He basically rages that no child of his is going to be “like that” and destroys everything.

    Left rejected by her family, Ariel has to go to an untrustworthy drag queen inspired octopus woman to get any info about how to go about matching her body to her inner self. Doing it carries a high and unfair cost, but she doesn’t have another option. So, she gives up her best skill (and limits her future career options) because life isn’t fair.

    Once she’s on land in her ideal body, she constantly smiles. She almost never smiled onscreen before this.

    She has a romance with someone she gets to know in her new life. She faces the consequences of her previous desperate compromises. Then she reunites with her briefly estranged family. Once her family accepts her and supports her, she is easily able to transition in safe and healthy ways. (It’s almost like rejecting your kid for their identity is a bad thing).

    Ariel doesn’t give up her voice for a man. Ariel comes out of the closet and lives her true authentic self.

    And there is a ride at both Disneyland and Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World.

  3. On the subject of The Little Mermaid, I have to say I absolutely do not frame the story as Ariel giving up her voice for a man. So, it’s Death of the Author time and let’s have one trans woman give her interpretation of the Little Mermaid.

    Ariel is a girl with a body doesn’t match her identity (She literally sings “Flippin’ your fins you don’t get too far. Legs are required for jumpin’, dancin'”).

    Her family doesn’t understand her. She has to hide all the objects associated with the life she wants to live. Sebastion sings a whole song trying to convince her she’s better off living how she was assigned at birth. Then her father discovers her private closet of stuff. He basically rages that no child of his is going to be “like that” and destroys everything.

    Left rejected by her family, Ariel has to go to an untrustworthy drag queen inspired octopus woman to get any info about how to go about matching her body to her inner self. Doing it carries a high and unfair cost, but she doesn’t have another option. So, she gives up her best skill and accepts future career goals are gonna be limited because life isn’t fair.

    Once she’s on land in her ideal body, she constantly smiles. She almost never smiled onscreen before this.

    She has a romance with someone she gets to know in her new life. She faces the consequences of her previous desperate compromises. Then she reunites with her briefly estranged family. Once her family accepts her and supports her, she is easily able to transition in safe and healthy ways.

    Ariel doesn’t give up her voice for a man. Ariel comes out of the closet and lives her true authentic self.

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